Sell a 2010 and buy a 2013?
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I suppose the 2013 still has a bit of warranty left as $20,000 strikes me as a fair spread for three model years difference.
One thing certain, the new D5/LR Explorer does not get me too excited. I note that Mercedes has just introduced their new bigger G Wagon - it appears to be now about the width and length of our 3s/4s.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/01/the-new-2019-g-class-mercedes-benz-reinvents-the-dinosaur/
My experience with my 4.4L V8 has to date been good. I noted that the newer LR4s seemed to have some variation of the Ford Ecoboost V6 and that struck me as kind of going backwards - but then LR has always struck me as a bit engine challenged, or perhaps bleeding edge.
By that I mean, Ford uses LR to test out everything before going mainstream with any of its better ideas.
I see Ford is presently using LR to test out variations of Blackberry's QNX software and other Blackberry products. LR is of course the ideal platform - not a lot of production, but world wide distribution so ideas get tired out on the global stage with no downside to Ford.
I suppose it would be dreaming to think that the new Defender will be the 3/4!
No warranty on the 2013 (4 years) It is 2018 lol.
4.4L was good. Nice and smooth just a little lacking pushing around LR weight.
The SCV6 (supercharged) in later LR4s have nothing in common with Ecoboost V6 (turbocharged).
The SCV6 is nothing more than the AJ Jag/LR 5.0L V8 with two cylinders chopped off and a supercharger added. More complexity to gain about 1 theoretical MPG.
4.4L was good. Nice and smooth just a little lacking pushing around LR weight.
The SCV6 (supercharged) in later LR4s have nothing in common with Ecoboost V6 (turbocharged).
The SCV6 is nothing more than the AJ Jag/LR 5.0L V8 with two cylinders chopped off and a supercharger added. More complexity to gain about 1 theoretical MPG.
umbertob
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Well, Ford sold JLR to Tata almost 10 years ago. Although I am sure Ford still supplies plenty of parts to both Jaguar and Land Rover, I don't know about them "using" brands they no longer own to test their new engines and in-cabin technology.
I never paid much attention to the V6 engines but I just assumed the SC was advertising and who really knows the difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger - well most soccer Moms do not so just assumed it was an Ecoboost.
Knocking two cylinders off and adding expensive bits sounds like LR Engineering - they would never consider sticking with something proven and maybe going with cylinder fuel cut off, GM style, but then that is not the Ford way either.
I regard Tata as a world leader in 3 wheelers however the good news being they have lots of money to pay others to design their 4 wheelers, Ford being one of the "contractors".
It might be my imagination, but for every Jag model there is, (and there seems to be alot of them), I think I see a Lincoln car as a mate. Those clones to not come from nowhere.
I will admit that while I called the D5 a tarted up Explorer, that is not exactly correct. I did one of those LR Experience things in October and got to ride around in the new D5 with a factory driver at the wheel.
The track was a shopping centre parking lot, (West Edmonton Mall), with very evil metal manufactured hill and ditch obstacles scattered about.
The real eye opener was the 45 degree hill up and then down obstacle. The driver balanced the 3 diagonally on the top of the V on two wheels, (front R and rear L),(difficult even to imagine, let do), and then she shifted her weight again the driver door to tip it down the other side. I was very still and quiet I might say, as I was expecting the glass roof to pop out and the windscreen to shatter because of the twisting moments. What is certain, is that while it might look like an Explorer, the D5 is structurally like our 3/4s.
