This is my first LR4 after having two LR3's. I do travel a lot of dirt "roads" over the summer and love the ability to do so comfortably. However, as a mom, I sported two kids and two dogs in my previous LR's. Just was never a mini-van mom. Sorry you took offense at any previous posts. Glad you enjoy your new Land Rover. Also, great to know my LR4 has great retention value. I added an OEM ladder and short BajaRack. I had 36.8 mpg on my last 8 hour trip - mostly highway miles. I love, and have always loved, my LR's.