Spare tire winch

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  1. ktm525

    ktm525 Full Access Member

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    The last time my Rover was at the dealer (replacing the DTML pump that was damaged in a rear end accident). they noted the spare tire winch was "weak" Considering I had only dropped the tire 2 times since new I was suspicious. Either the auto body and/or the dealer damaged it and now I know how.

    I took the winch off the truck (simple to do with 6 10mm nuts)and drilled out the rivets that held the casing together. The part that fails is there is a gear on a shaft that is pressed on and held with a friction retainer.

    Torque the re-tractor nut too hard and this part will fail. On the original winch design the lowering/re-tractor is a "nut" the same size as the lugs so you simply use your tire wrench to move. I am sure most shops simply put the old air wrench on it and have at it. Unfortunately this will over torque the winch and your tire will now not drop when you need it. Land Rover recognized this an d put a tiny little warning diagram on the rubber plug that hides the nut. I am sure most shops don't care.

    On the "improved" design it looks like the mechanism is driven by a loop so no lug wrench can be used. To lower/raise it must be done by hand using the jack spinner.

    Check your spare for functionality. If you had a tire shop/dealer moving it then I can almost guarantee they used an air wrench and may have damaged the unit to the point where it is useless to the owner when they are at the side of the road with a flat. Not sure what model year when the new design was incorporated (mine is a 2010).
     
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    2014s and later have the new design. I think the change was a running one during MY2013 production, so depending on when your 2013 was built you may or may not have the tire shop proof design (mine is an early build 13 and I still have the lug nut thingie.) Luckily, replacement winches are not too terribly expensive, but you are right that you don't want to find out you need a new one when you are stranded with a flat on the side of the road.
     
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    Yeah it wasn't too bad. Lucky8 to the rescue.
     
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    i hate morons who don't care about the stuff they work on. happens too often whether it's screwing up paint or causing other more or less permanent blemishes.
     
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    New winch arrived. 5 mins to install and back in business. The new design is not as easy to use as the old one but I guess it keeps the morons at bay.
     
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    My 2013 has the newer one apparently. You have to use the hook through the hole, it doesn't have the lug sized thing. Has a date of 01/13 on it.
     
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    Interesting. My 2013 has the lug turned winch.
     
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    what was your build date? (or month).
     

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