jwest
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they probably were shot at 70 but then they just felt the same from there on out LOL. they were essentially falling out in bits when i pulled them though
Green/Orange/Factory LCA Bushings from Atlantic British?
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they probably were shot at 70 but then they just felt the same from there on out LOL. they were essentially falling out in bits when i pulled them though
Maybe not a *****, but kind of an asshole.
No kidding. What's up, jwest? No nut November getting to you?
jwest
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very astute (not sarcasm)
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jwest
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It was just insulting to have you suggest I was confusing a ball joint with a bushing which would require thinking a ball joint could ever be a polyurethane thingy rather than a metal "ball" ? As you know I replaced all suspension parts myself last year.....
plus i'm tired of seeing these nonsensical poly bushing threads lol. It's not a race car.
I didn't use the poly bushings because I want to vroom vroom, I used them because I never want to have to remove those ***-metal garbage corroded-in-place asshole control arm bolts ever again if I can help it. One of my four magically slid right out, the other three I had to cut out. Even with Diablo blades in my big saw that's still a pain in the balls I'd rather avoid having to do again any time soon, so I'm hoping the polys will last for as long as I keep this thing.
jwest
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I totally understand your logic, however, the ones you put in will corrode and the other bits will need to be refreshed (ideally) so part of my reasoning was I'd rather just replace them all more often and in oem fashion for much less $ than try to stretch the time on the whole system just because one part 'might' last a lot longer. (note that if any petroleum products get on those, it starts to eat away at them)
As for the hardware, I was lucky to have all my bolts be reusable (if i'd needed to but i replaced w new) except for one at the upper rear front i think.
Anyway, while not forged aluminum or even nicer steel, these are not "***" metal. They are stamped parts and welded. When I compare to my bmw and audi it's amazing how much higher quality the German engineering was.
Look under a Mercedes G wagon and you might just cry with envy
I totally understand your logic, however, the ones you put in will corrode and the other bits will need to be refreshed (ideally) so part of my reasoning was I'd rather just replace them all more often and in oem fashion for much less $ than try to stretch the time on the whole system just because one part 'might' last a lot longer. (note that if any petroleum products get on those, it starts to eat away at them)
As for the hardware, I was lucky to have all my bolts be reusable (if i'd needed to but i replaced w new) except for one at the upper rear front i think.
Anyway, while not forged aluminum or even nicer steel, these are not "***" metal. They are stamped parts and welded. When I compare to my bmw and audi it's amazing how much higher quality the German engineering was.
Look under a Mercedes G wagon and you might just cry with envy
I didn't spend more money than OEM, I spent a little bit less - not a lot less, but some. So even if they last less time I'm ahead (as long as it isn't a lot less,) but I'm betting they'll last longer. Ball joints last a long time. Steel arms last essentially forever. The only questionably perishable part is the two bushings, and I'm counting on high quality poly lasting longer than low-budget fluid-filled rubber. I don't plan on pouring gas and oil all over my control arm bushings any time soon. And yeah, I did say low-budget -- JLR makes some nice vehicles, but they also have several **** parts in most of them. There's a reason that they're worth nothing after a few years, and it's poor choices on their end. Too many among us let them get away with stupid **** and make excuses for them -- I'm not one of those people. I love my LR4, but it's their fault it's worth about $17k at five years old when a five year old Tacoma is worth $20k and had less than half the MSRP originally (sorry for the make-shift math problem, but you know what I mean.)
The control arm bolts are, in fact, absolute **** cheap metal. Maybe not cheap monetarily, but **** - that's on JLR for using them if they cost a lot to make. That's what I said was cheap **** metal - lots of the other parts are nice. The control arms themselves are very nice, actually. And hey, the genuine JLR nuts for the control arm bolts are made in Germany -- maybe that's why they come off gracefully rather than being grown into place like the **** bolts. Going back OEM as if that's the safe way to go with JLR is a silly concept -- they **** up constantly - I don't trust their ideas above **** I think up in the shower.
No need to look under a G Wagen for envy - I've owned Land Cruisers -- I know how well vehicles can be made. I sure wish they made one that wasn't pig ugly and had decent power these days.
BikePilot
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FWIW poly bushings come in a tremendous range of qualities and firmness. We are running powerflex purple poly in all pivot bush locations in the wife's saab 9-5 aero wagon. They ride about like stock, but provide a noticeable improvement in steering. Also they've got 75k miles on them so far with no signs of wear. Stockers would have been long gone by now (this car is ******* bushes--wacky rear suspension design). Car has been used in coastal florida and in the colorado mountains. No squeaks so far.
jlach993
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fuckking DEAD!! hahahaa
