Control Arm bushings

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For anyone interested in new control arms with polys, we have a brand new line of control arms with green polys pre-installed and they come with new mounting hardware and everything... plus they are on sale right now...

If you are looking for bolt and done, that is...

the green polyurethane bushings are a semi-firm bushing (85A Rating).

Thx.

How does that compare to the other poly bushings on the market? How does that compare to the OEM bushings? I'd probably want something roughly the same as the OE.
 

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Can anyone point me to a good how-to, or video that shows in detail how the camber bolts and washers go together and work?

I don't shy away from many jobs, but alignment related items have always seemed like some sort of black magic witchcraft as I have zero experience working with them.

I'm probably close to another control arm job, and am thinking of trying these poly bushes, but I would rather do it myself than pay a shop to do it (other than the alignment at the end, of course).

Like Ryan said, plenty of youtube videos. The hardware on mine was basically fine and the bolts that came with the parts kit from Atlantic British kind of sucked in my opinion with the offset washer twisting off it's axis and becoming useless. The original stuff was still solid as could be so I used most of it instead.

Some people mention spray painting the bolt heads where the marks are for getting them back into the same spot but that is not really very accurate. I used a red grease pencil or fat sharpie to make a couple marks across which are much more accurate to get exactly back to correct rotation.
 

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For anyone interested in new control arms with polys, we have a brand new line of control arms with green polys pre-installed and they come with new mounting hardware and everything... plus they are on sale right now...

If you are looking for bolt and done, that is...

the green polyurethane bushings are a semi-firm bushing (85A Rating).

Thx.

Good to hear this. I think you should also offer a higher grade hardware kit as the ones I got had a missing/duplicate part as well as some of the washers just rotating off the axis and not doing their job. It was pretty annoying to be honest. You all sent replacement stuff without hassle, but as you can imagine, it was a let down when right in the middle of a project like this. Overall I have recommended you guys to everyone for 20 years now while supplying stuff for all 3 of my Land Rovers.
 

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How does that compare to the other poly bushings on the market? How does that compare to the OEM bushings? I'd probably want something roughly the same as the OE.

Regarding OE rubber bushings, note that ride feel and performance on those will change over time, as the rubber wears out. When new, the ride performance will be tightest. As they wear, ride performance will be a bit softer on cornering. When they are ready for replacement, ride performance will be very soft and sloppy on turns. Also, you may hear squealing tires on roll and knocking, which would indicate the rubber has fully degraded and bushings should be replaced.

Polys last longer, of course.

Bushings are rated by hardness using the Shore Rating Scale:

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Here's a brief overview of the hardness on polys by formulation. Each formulation has a specific color and shore rating (though some manufacturers have created their own colors.) The control arms with polys we offer featture the imaxle green 85A poly bushings:

General Polyurethane Bushing Characteristics:

Red = Classic (65A Rating) Performs generally like normal rubber-type bushes but with an improved lifespan

Blue = Comfort (80A Rating) Notably harder compound for precision handling whilst not compromising on ride quality

Imaxle Green = (85A Rating) Bit stiffer than blue compound with similar handling - a good blend of stiffness with some softness for ride quality

Orange = Dynamic (95A Rating) used for track/performance purposes, very much a no-compromise bush.

So the green bushes sit between the comfort and dynamic on the harder side.

The slight rise in hardness would not be noticeable in terms of comfort and wouldn't make the ride harsh or bumpy, but would offer a more precise handling characteristic when fitted.

Thx.
 
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Good to hear this. I think you should also offer a higher grade hardware kit as the ones I got had a missing/duplicate part as well as some of the washers just rotating off the axis and not doing their job. It was pretty annoying to be honest. You all sent replacement stuff without hassle, but as you can imagine, it was a let down when right in the middle of a project like this. Overall I have recommended you guys to everyone for 20 years now while supplying stuff for all 3 of my Land Rovers.

Sorry to hear you had issues with the hardware.

If possible, could you PM me with what specific hardware kit you purchased and any additional details you can provide along with your email?

I will forward that information to a product manager to investigate.

Thx.
 

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Well I'm on my second LR4 had a 2011 with 130k on the right rear wheel bearing froze traded it in on a 2017 Discovery td6 didn't like it traded it for a 2016 LR4. I can tell you if yo can get the rear bolt out of the right lower control arm without cutting it out you will be lucky. I did my 2011 in 2 hours all the bolts cAm out without any trouble. On the other hand both rear bolts had to be cut out on my son-inlaws 2012 So my recommendation is if the rear bolts come out bush them otherwise have new ones ready to pick up.
 

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@atlanticbritish You sell the green poly LCA bushings, as well as orange ones. I was always under the impression that the orange bushes were softer than the green but your chart above indicates otherwise. Can you confirm? I want as close to OEM firmness as possible. Thanks!
 

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@atlanticbritish You sell the green poly LCA bushings, as well as orange ones. I was always under the impression that the orange bushes were softer than the green but your chart above indicates otherwise. Can you confirm? I want as close to OEM firmness as possible. Thanks!

I believe the green are softer than the orange. I have orange and they are stiff (but comfortable)
 

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