Crankshaft Sensor or Timing Chain or ?

So quick update - the timing jumped time and did some damage to drivers side head, valves, camshaft. Indy shop who has done a lot 5.0 said this is the first 3.0 he has seen do this. The block is the same as the 5.0 with the back two cylinders plugged. So I am forced into a pretty good size bill to replace the left head (found a complete intact clean one from a totalled truck in North Carolina with low miles for $600) - and do the timing chain job. Decided to do the water pump and crossovers as well as a maintenance item and with some shaving in oil pan (camera) opted for the extra labor to pull the motor and clean the oil pan. I am right at about $5,900 out the door with all the required new parts/bolts. The shop is doing me a solid on labor and having some sympathy since I just bought it. Now the question... keep it or offload it? Also just did the lower control arms (both sides) and thermostat/housing. It feels like I have touched some of the larger spends on these as wear items, but feeling a bit sunburned with $7,100 invested at 60 days in...

Is your question whether you should offload it or fix it?

That's a question of pure dollars and cents that only you can answer, because you know what you paid for it.

Is the dealership you bought it from not on the line for this?

Yeah the dealer is not going to help - I will likely keep it since you cannot match the looks or feel of these when they are running right. I figure for 6K the motor *should* be solid for a while.

Did they have some language limiting their warranty of the vehicle?

At a former firm, I had to defend "bad car" claims a lot. They are a lot more common that I would have thought before hand. I would push the hell out of they dealer if they didn't have anything in writing that absolved them of liability.

LR4FoxsSake said:

Yeah the dealer is not going to help - I will likely keep it since you cannot match the looks or feel of these when they are running right. I figure for 6K the motor *should* be solid for a while.

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How many miles on the engine when this happened? It was probably traded in when previous owner heard something amiss.

114K when I bought it - put just a few hundred on it before this happened. Was bought 'as-is' (as most higher miles used vehicles are these days it seems) I did a lot of research on the 3.0 V6 SC and specifically felt safe knowing that the timing chain issue was supposed to be fixed with this motor - and was under the impression that this was a non-interference engine - I guess not since this wreaked havoc on the left side of the motor. Anyway, a one owner, dealer serviced, clean carfax felt safe to buy for the wife's 5 mile daily commute. I am hoping it's was a freak occurrence and this repair coupled with with lower control arms and thermostat carries me a while until the next thing. Dare to dream...

Based on our forum speculation, the issue comes down to oil change intervals. Even though the part was updated in late 2012, the newer part can still have the issue.

The BIGGEST part of that, though, is LR's recommended oil change interval is 15k miles. So, even someone who thinks they are doing the right thing and changing the oil per Land Rover recommendations to the "T" could be causing havoc long-term.

What I've found as I casually look at L405's for sale, though, is that a lot of people take those 15k intervals and push them out to 17k or so. So the problem only gets worse.

@ryanjl I think you are correct - even though it was maintained at dealer the interval matters. Got a shot from the tech with the motor out. He dropped the oil pan and cleaned that out of all metal fragments from the camshaft. The drivers side cylinder head came in from import dissmanter in North Carolina and he says it looks like new. Now it's reassemble time. Mentioned before also doing the water pump and now crossover since it's torn apart. I appreciate the commentary and responses, it has proven to be good therapy...

LR4FoxsSake said:

@ryanjl I think you are correct - even though it was maintained at dealer the interval matters. Got a shot from the tech with the motor out. He dropped the oil pan and cleaned that out of all metal fragments from the camshaft. The drivers side cylinder head came in from import dissmanter in North Carolina and he says it looks like new. Now it's reassemble time. Mentioned before also doing the water pump and now crossover since it's torn apart. I appreciate the commentary and responses, it has proven to be good therapy...

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Without a doubt, get everything done now that you can. Clean up carbon build up, plugs, water pump, etc.

Interesting to see just the engine pulled like that. I thought they would pull the body, since it's "so easy" to do.

Quijote said:

Without a doubt, get everything done now that you can. Clean up carbon build up, plugs, water pump, etc.

Interesting to see just the engine pulled like that. I thought they would pull the body, since it's "so easy" to do.

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Ditto on that as well, because if I ever yank mine I would be bringing it out the top as well.