LR3 to LR4V8 to LR4SCV6 differences

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I’ve been searching for a comprehensive thread that has all the differences between LR3 (4.4L) to LR4 V8 to LR4 SCV6. I haven’t found one (maybe I suck at search function), so starting this thread in hopes of folks contributing and having a worthwhile resource. Trying to keep this to the differences. Please feel free to add or correct and I’ll go back in to edit the post so its accurate. Thanks!


LR3V8.

4.4L V8 300 HP / 315 TQ
Start/Stop: No
Transmission: 6 sp auto
Suspension: Air
Terrain Response: 5 (including Rock crawl)
Headlights: Halogen.
High beam assist: No
Heated Steering wheel: No.
Blind spot assist: No
Backup Camera: No
Surround Camera: No.
Shifter: Stick/Stalk.
Cup holders: ExLarge (fits a yeti colster) + hidden one right of glovebox

LR4V8.

5.0L V8 375 HP / 375 TQ
Start/Stop: No
Transmission: 6 sp auto
Suspension: Air
Terrain Response: 5 (including Rock crawl)
Headlights: Hal or Xenon w/ dot LEDs
High beam assist: Yes
Heated Steering wheel option: Yes
Blind spot assist option: No??
Backup Camera: Yes
Surround Camera option: Yes
Shifter: Stick/Stalk.
Cup holders: Regular size and no hidden one in LR4s, right?


LR4SCV6

3.0L SC 340 HP / 332 TQ
Start stop: Yes
Transmission: 8 sp auto
Suspension: Air. (Is the suspension / ride the same between each? Same compressor, damping, etc?)
Self Leveling the same or more advanced on LR4s?
Terrain Response: 4 / 5 (if HD pack Rear Locker). Is the programming different between generations or years? HD package required on the SCV6 to get the locking center. Otherwise center was standard on the LR3 and LR4V8.

Other drive train differences?
Towing specs say 7716 (‘07LR3 - ‘16LR4) though there is a difference in brake caliper size between LR3 and LR4.

Headlights: Xenon w/ DRL LEDs
High beam assist: Yes
Heated Steering wheel option: Yes
Blind spot assist option: Yes
Backup Camera: Yes
Surround Camera option: Yes
Shifter: Dial
Cup holders: Regular size and no hidden one in LR4s, right?


Overall the interior gets more modern and less “analog” feel as you move from LR3 to LR4V8 to LR4SCV6



Backstory:


I’m now at 110K miles on my ‘08 LR3, its running great, and has some aftermarket/custom work done. As items were replaced such as rear diff, put in a locker. I had the original intention of keeping it for a very long time and doing overland adventures so haven’t minded investing in the mods/upgrades. In reality, its on pavement most of the time shuttling the kids between their activities, or for skiing or the beach. Its off pavement is on the beach more than dirt. During first month of Covid I sold my daily driver. So the LR3 is now my daily - I love the utility of it, ride, style, but wanting more of the “modernness” of the LR4 but not sure it is worth the +$20K to move to ‘13LR4 or SCV6. Currently spending roughly $2500/year on maintenance (might be overkill but don’t want to be stranded w/ our young kids) spend has me wondering if I would be better off moving to a more modern LR4 SCV6 that may have less maintenance in the near term. Also I don’t have experience in a SCV6... no idea if the ride is smoother, quieter, etc and other modern conveniences to be enough to make it worthwhile.
 
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I’ve been searching for a comprehensive thread that has all the differences between LR3 (4.4L) to LR4 V8 to LR4 SCV6. I haven’t found one (maybe I suck at search function), so starting this thread in hopes of folks contributing and having a worthwhile resource. Trying to keep this to the differences. Please feel free to add or correct and I’ll go back in to edit the post so its accurate. Thanks!


LR3V8.

4.4L V8 300 HP / 315 TQ
Start/Stop: No
Transmission: 6 sp auto
Suspension: Air
Terrain Response: 5 (including Rock crawl)
Headlights: Halogen.
High beam assist: No
Heated Steering wheel: No.
Blind spot assist: No
Backup Camera: No
Surround Camera: No.
Shifter: Stick/Stalk.
Cup holders: ExLarge (fits a yeti colster) + hidden one right of glovebox

LR4V8.

5.0L V8 375 HP / 375 TQ
Start/Stop: No
Transmission: 6 sp auto
Suspension: Air
Terrain Response: 5 (including Rock crawl)
Headlights: Hal or Xenon w/ dot LEDs
High beam assist: Yes
Heated Steering wheel option: Yes
Blind spot assist option: No??
Backup Camera: Yes
Surround Camera option: Yes
Shifter: Stick/Stalk.
Cup holders: Regular size and no hidden one in LR4s, right?


LR4SCV6

3.0L SC 340 HP / 332 TQ
Start stop: Yes
Transmission: 8 sp auto
Suspension: Air. (Is the suspension / ride the same between each? Same compressor, damping, etc?)
Self Leveling the same or more advanced on LR4s?
Terrain Response: 4 / 5 (if HD pack Rear Locker). Is the programming different between generations or years? HD package required on the SCV6 to get the locking center. Otherwise center was standard on the LR3 and LR4V8.

Other drive train differences?
Towing specs say 7716 (‘07LR3 - ‘16LR4) though there is a difference in brake caliper size between LR3 and LR4.

Headlights: Xenon w/ DRL LEDs
High beam assist: Yes
Heated Steering wheel option: Yes
Blind spot assist option: Yes
Backup Camera: Yes
Surround Camera option: Yes
Shifter: Dial
Cup holders: Regular size and no hidden one in LR4s, right?


Overall the interior gets more modern and less “analog” feel as you move from LR3 to LR4V8 to LR4SCV6



Backstory:


I’m now at 110K miles on my ‘08 LR3, its running great, and has some aftermarket/custom work done. As items were replaced such as rear diff, put in a locker. I had the original intention of keeping it for a very long time and doing overland adventures so haven’t minded investing in the mods/upgrades. In reality, its on pavement most of the time shuttling the kids between their activities, or for skiing or the beach. Its off pavement is on the beach more than dirt. During first month of Covid I sold my daily driver. So the LR3 is now my daily - I love the utility of it, ride, style, but wanting more of the “modernness” of the LR4 but not sure it is worth the +$20K to move to ‘13LR4 or SCV6. Currently spending roughly $2500/year on maintenance (might be overkill but don’t want to be stranded w/ our young kids) spend has me wondering if I would be better off moving to a more modern LR4 SCV6 that may have less maintenance in the near term. Also I don’t have experience in a SCV6... no idea if the ride is smoother, quieter, etc and other modern conveniences to be enough to make it worthwhile.

A few notes:

First, I believe the Lr3 could be had with Xenons.

I believe the general consensus is that the 4.4L V8 in the LR3 may be more reliable than the LR4 engines. The 5.0 V8 had timing chain guide issues until late 2012 builds, with some saying the chain itself tends to stretch when people follow the 15K mile oil change interval. (The chain, of course, doesn't actually stretch, but the links wear, supposedly making it longer and thus adding slack). In addition, both the 5.0 and the SCv6 (which is largely the same engine with the rearmost two cylinders plugged) also seem to have weaknesses in the front and rear cooling crossover pipes.

I recently traded my 2012 LR4 for a 2016 with low low miles. Perhaps its the fact that all of the suspension bushings are much newer, but the 2016 feels firmer and "tighter" generally than the 2012, even though the 2012 recently had new control arms installed. There's several threads out there discussing the differences between the power delivery between the V8 and V6. Living at altitude, I don't believe I feel much difference between the overall quickness of the V8 vs V6, but the low end feels a little different. The V8 kinda leaps off the line when you mash the throttle from a stop, whereas the v6 picks up at about 2K rpm. Not sure how much is due to the torque difference and how much is due to throttle tuning. Also the mirror lights project a picture of a LR4 when you unlock the car. Key feature.
 
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Reliability-wise there is very little difference between the 10-13 v8 and 14-16 v6 SC engine, since they share the same block with the back two cylinders filled in on the V6s. All of the problematic items(plastic cooling system bits, water pump, etc) are the same/similar. In fact, people might argue that the V6SC has more potential issues due to the supercharger coupler, start-stop feature and is generally harder to work on from the top. So if given a choice between the 10-13 V8 and the 14-16 V6, the V8 would be it. The powerband makes much more sense for a heavy truck such as this. The only advantage of the 14-16 v6s is the 8sp transmission. Electronics/infotainment aren't very different past 2013.

Another thing to consider is the 14-16 v6s lost the 2sp transfer case as standard and finding one with that is very difficult. It's considered a must have if you do any decent off roading. 10-13s had it standard.
 

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supercharger coupler, start-stop feature and is generally harder to work on from the top.

Supercharger coupler isn’t really too much of an issue, but the biggest thing for me is just that it’s a PITA to have to take the supercharger off to get to other stuff, and I suspect mechanics use this as an excuse to double the price of repairs (it’s really not that hard to get the supercharger off, but for a home mechanic, it means draining the coolant and unclipping a s**tload of tubes and sensors).

The pre-2013’s had the timing chain issue. If you can find a pre-2013 with the timing chains done, that’d be great - or price the job into the purchase price (I’m hearing 6K-10K).

The 2013’s apparently had upgraded timing chain parts that seem to be fairing better, and seems to be a sweet spot if you don’t mind higher mileage than what you can find in the newer cars.
 

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It looks like you had LR4s in the past so you know what you are missing. As long as the body is solid I would probably just keep the 08. The mileage isn't very high.

No LR4 is going to be "modern". The last one rolled off the line 5 years ago.
 

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Another thing to consider is the 14-16 v6s lost the 2sp transfer case as standard and finding one with that is very difficult. It's considered a must have if you do any decent off roading. 10-13s had it standard.

Other than the engine, this is the biggest difference to me.

Just perusing the 14+ models online, it seems like only about 1 in 12 or so have the HD option. Without a low range center diff, all the others are glorified crossovers.
 

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Other than the engine, this is the biggest difference to me.

Just perusing the 14+ models online, it seems like only about 1 in 12 or so have the HD option. Without a low range center diff, all the others are glorified crossovers.


Yup. The deletion of the standard 2 speed transfer case along with replacing the V8 with a SCV6 and the entire D5 development is some of the most stupid things Land Rover has done. Did they really save much deleting the 2 speed TC?
 

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Note that on the SCV6 the Terrain response has 5 functions as long as you have the low/high gear TC. The lowrange was optional on HSE for US and CA, however on HSE in MENA it was standard. I know this for a fact as I have a MENA specced HSE that has the low gear but lacks the rear lockable diff which was optional there.
 

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A few notes:

First, I believe the Lr3 could be had with Xenons.

I believe the general consensus is that the 4.4L V8 in the LR3 may be more reliable than the LR4 engines. The 5.0 V8 had timing chain guide issues until late 2012 builds, with some saying the chain itself tends to stretch when people follow the 15K mile oil change interval. (The chain, of course, doesn't actually stretch, but the links wear, supposedly making it longer and thus adding slack). In addition, both the 5.0 and the SCv6 (which is largely the same engine with the rearmost two cylinders plugged) also seem to have weaknesses in the front and rear cooling crossover pipes.

I recently traded my 2012 LR4 for a 2016 with low low miles. Perhaps its the fact that all of the suspension bushings are much newer, but the 2016 feels firmer and "tighter" generally than the 2012, even though the 2012 recently had new control arms installed. There's several threads out there discussing the differences between the power delivery between the V8 and V6. Living at altitude, I don't believe I feel much difference between the overall quickness of the V8 vs V6, but the low end feels a little different. The V8 kinda leaps off the line when you mash the throttle from a stop, whereas the v6 picks up at about 2K rpm. Not sure how much is due to the torque difference and how much is due to throttle tuning. Also the mirror lights project a picture of a LR4 when you unlock the car. Key feature.

Thank you for noting those differences and the comparison on power delivery. For the mirrors on the SCV6, do they power fold in?
 

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