Defender 130 is out!

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Doesn't look like it has a flat load floor...
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Well, the 130 is getting closer to the LR3 and 4 but I still wonder where the space went - big on the outside, small on the inside, and why no flat floor now.

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I think it was the flat rear that sold me on the 3 - big on the inside; small on the outside. The new Defender seems to have it backward - maybe that is what happens when there is no frame under. The 3 even has three roof lights that the 130 now boasts of having.

It is almost as if the design people started with a Series 3 and if the new design appeared better than that, well all good. Maybe the spare tyre should go back on the bonnet?
 

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Does the 110 have a flat floor once the 2nd row is folded down?
 

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Does the 110 have a flat floor once the 2nd row is folded down?
The short answer is no. The question is why?

In particular, why are the new versions smaller on the inside but larger on the outside? My only guess is something to do with unit body construction.

I guess what annoys me so much is Toyota continues with body on frame vehicles - what do Toyota not know?

Well, there is Grenadier.

 

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In particular, why are the new versions smaller on the inside but larger on the outside? My only guess is something to do with unit body construction.

This bugs me too.

One thing I've always liked about the LR4 is it actually seems bigger on the inside than you'd think it'd be from looking at the outside.

I'm not sure if it's body/frame construction, safety issues, or what. But it does seem like doors and body panels have done nothing but get thicker over the last 15 years.
 

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