Confirm 2013 TPMS & Advice Needed

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Confirm 2013 TPMS & Spare Tire Advice Needed

Hello Everyone,

So, my five (5) 18" Compomotive wheels (satin black) arrived at my local independent Land Rover garage, and upon close inspection, a big chip was found in one of the wheels. Ugh! I e-mailed Barry at Compomotive a photo of the chipped wheel this afternoon (the shipping box seemed fine), so I am hoping I can exchange it for another wheel relatively easily (as long as there is one in stock ). I will keep you all posted as to his response. So far he's been extremely responsive and helpful.

After a lot of research for my needs, discussions with lots of people, and personal preference, I have decided to go with the BF Goodrich A/T KO tires in the 265/65R18 size. Going with this size will allow me to run the tires at standard height with no modifications needed. There may be slight rubbing at full rear wheel lock (not enough to require re-routing A/C, heating, sensor lines), but that can be remedied when the tire wears in a little or you can remove the plastic wheel lining and bend in the metal a bit (that is supposedly where it rubs). I have instructions from Gordon at Green Oval who has a lot of experience with these wheels and various tire sizes/types.

I am planning to get 5 TPMS and want to confirm these are the correct ones for a 2013:

http://www.tpmsdirect.com/Land_Rover_LR4_TPMS_Sensor_p/1055-20.htm

I want 5 TPMS because I plan to rotate my 18" wheels/tires as factory recommended, even the spare.

Now my question about my spare. I have the HD package with the full-sized spare (it is black to match my other stock black design wheels). I currently have that factory full-sized wheel with the stock Conti tire stowed away, and when I go off-roading, I throw in another spare (silver LR4 wheel) I have with a Cooper Zeon LTZ tire. I also have Cooper Zeon LTZs on my current other four wheels.

I am thinking of switching the Cooper tire from the silver 19" wheel to the stock black spare 19" wheel and then keeping my 5 stock black 19" wheels with Cooper Zeon LTZ tires (and they will all have the stock TPMS). This way I can switch back to the 19" wheels if I wanted with no problem. I was thinking of mounting my stock spare Conti (and TPMS) on the 19" silver LR4 wheel (I bought this on eBay last year) and stow that under the truck to keep it as an emergency back-up donut tire. Plus, it would prevent my TPMS alert from going off since it's stowed and aired up. I would only use the spare 19" wheel/Conti tire as an emergency temporary spare at low speeds if something happened to my 18" spare. I am planning to put my 18" Compomotive spare wheel with BFG tire on the roof rack full-time and use that if needed. Do you think this will work or would it be terrible to possibly (but highly unlikely since I will have the 18" spare on the roof rack) ever use the 19" Conti as a back-up very short-term donut spare?

Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

-David

 

[PaulLR3]

David, I can tell you that is the correct TPMS sensor. I just bought 5 myself to use with Nokian winter tires on a set of 19" LR3 wheels. I bought 5 used LR3 wheels so I can also swap my OE full size spare in winter and save the new wheel from road salt, ice melt & sand.

 

[mbw]

What is going to happen with the damaged wheel? sending it back? I might buy it for a discount if we could work that out. PM me a picture of it if you think that might be an option. (Barry has me on file also, so im sure he knows I am not just some random yahoo trying to scam you) They are black right?

I did consider the T/A KO, but I still think the silent armor is a better choice, especially for winter duty. The tire has a lot more siping. I have also had a lot of experience with various goodyear tires, both good and bad. The premium line of tires has only really disappointed me once (in aggressive street tires) and they swapped them out for free for another summer tire. (GY eagle F1's are pretty nice)

Either way, im sure it will be a nice setup.

 

[Finlayforprez]

What is going to happen with the damaged wheel? sending it back? I might buy it for a discount if we could work that out. PM me a picture of it if you think that might be an option. (Barry has me on file also, so im sure he knows I am not just some random yahoo trying to scam you) They are black right?

I did consider the T/A KO, but I still think the silent armor is a better choice, especially for winter duty. The tire has a lot more siping. I have also had a lot of experience with various goodyear tires, both good and bad. The premium line of tires has only really disappointed me once (in aggressive street tires) and they swapped them out for free for another summer tire. (GY eagle F1's are pretty nice)

Either way, im sure it will be a nice setup.

I am having the garage send me some better photos, but it's basically a chip on the front. Barry said it likely happened in shipping, so I need to send him a picture of the whole wheel and shipping container. I believe he is going to file something with UPS, but I am not sure yet. It's pretty annoying.

I will keep in touch and let you know what happens - yes, the wheel is satin black.

Thanks for the advice about tires, of course, I keep going back and forth (even though I say I decided) between the GY and your tires - HAHA! At least I still have time!

 

[umbertob]

It will be interesting to see how Barry handles this hiccup. Did the shipping box show any sign of damage / wear? Sounds like the wheel was chipped upon its departure, as it would take quite a hit to damage those strong alloys in transit.

Regarding your second question, with a fairly substantial 1.5" difference in overall diameter and about 5" difference in circumference between your 18s and the 19" "emergency-emergency" spare, I would trust that wheel only for extremely short distances that don't involve high speed travel. Also, a mismatch that large on the front axle will likely throw the transmission in "cornering" mode (meaning the transmission will translate the rolling difference between left and right wheels into the car being in an endless turn), preventing you from upshifting past 2nd or 3rd gear. So, if you have a flat in front, at the very least you should move a matching wheel from the rear and bring it to the front axle, and install the 19" on the rear axle to minimize this possibility.

 

[GoLoaf]

On top of umberto's point, two spares seems like overkill, especially if the four tires you're running are as tough as the A/T KOs or the silent armors.

Is there a way to leave the under-frame space empty without freaking the system out (assuming your spare goes on the roof)? That option would give you better departure angles and easier access to your spare.

Personally, I'd take the chipped rim and make it my spare, and throw it under the vehicle. I would also not include that spare in the rotation. Then the chip isn't a problem anymore. And no spare on the roof to get blasted by the California sun all day. When you do serious off-roading, then throw it on the roof and ignore the tire pressure warning you'd get.

 

[Finlayforprez]

I heard from Barry and he has filed a damage claim with UPS. He also asked if I could get a quote from a local alloy repair specialist. I am just hoping UPS will pay for another wheel, unless there are no more satin black wheels available (which could be why he asked that I get a quote from a local repair specialist). So far Barry has been back and forth with me several times today, so at least he is working on the situation. The box does not appear to show any signs of damage - at least from this photo and the folks at the garage said it looks fine.

I had the garage take a few photos of the chip - let me know what you guys think:

 

[Finlayforprez]

On top of umberto's point, two spares seems like overkill, especially if the four tires you're running are as tough as the A/T KOs or the silent armors.

Is there a way to leave the under-frame space empty without freaking the system out (assuming your spare goes on the roof)? That option would give you better departure angles and easier access to your spare.

Personally, I'd take the chipped rim and make it my spare, and throw it under the vehicle. I would also not include that spare in the rotation. Then the chip isn't a problem anymore. And no spare on the roof to get blasted by the California sun all day. When you do serious off-roading, then throw it on the roof and ignore the tire pressure warning you'd get.

Thanks Umberto and GoLoaf for the responses - very helpful.

Yeah, 2 spares is likely overkill, but moreso I wanted to stow it in the spare to prevent the TPMS from going off every time I start the truck. Your idea about stowing the 18" wheel with BFG (or other) tire in the spare I thought about, but to be honest, it's a tight fit and I don't want to deal with it. I'd rather throw it on the roof or in the back as needed.

I actually would prefer to stow nothing, but I don't know how to deactivate the TPMS?

As far as the chip, I definitely want it fixed somehow.

-David

 

[umbertob]

You can easily deactivate TPMS spare tire monitoring (or turn off TPMS altogether) with your IIDTool, it's one of the options in the CCF.

If I had all that space from the spare tire available, I'd be looking into an auxiliary fuel tank retrofit kit, I know they are available in Australia.

 

[Finlayforprez]

You can easily deactivate TPMS spare tire monitoring (or turn off TPMS altogether) with your IIDTool, it's one of the options in the CCF.

If I had all that space from the spare tire available, I'd be looking into an auxiliary fuel tank retrofit kit, I know they are available in Australia.

Thanks, Umberto!

Duh on my part - I was just going to ask if I could disable TPMS spare tire monitoring alone with my IIDTool - that's awesome! I haven't really been playing with it a lot lately, but it is so useful for many things. It's nice also if I need it back on, I can just use the tool to activate it again. I definitely want to leave TPMS on for the other 4 tires. You know, this is also great to be able to disable TPMS if I were to air down for off roading.

Do you ever use it for those purposes?

-David