(Resolved) - LR4 Stuck 3rd Row Seat

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Sorry if this is somewhere else, I didn't find a similar thread.

2016 LR4. 3rd row drivers side seat stuck down.

From other searches it seems that it's usually the drivers side and it's either stuck, broken, or a bolt rattled loose.

Mine seems to be just good & stuck, or in need of an adjustment.
The mechanism sounds ok, and seems to be moving - but not enough?
The very initial release is what is not working so it's down tight to the floor and very hard to get at anything.
I think it's in the mechanism right at the lever.

I used WD-40 on what I could get at.

Not sure that removing the other 3rd row seat would actually help.
But if so, what torques do I need for the bolts to the body?

Any ideas short of dynamite?
 

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put weight on it floor/seat while unlocking the mechanism
 

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Well, it's fixed and darn good thing there was a working one for looking at to figure it out - never would have figured it out without the good seat!

In my opinion this mechanism is way too complicated...
This seat was wonky from the factory - several failures - installed a workaround for one and hopefully greased the others enough to be a long term fix.

This failure was due to the lock down "hook" not being retracted enough by the release handle and trapping the seat "loop"
The challenge was getting it unhooked.
First flip up the seat pan.
Working from underneath and parallel to the floor.
With a long screwdriver push on the magic lever towards the rear of the vehicle, and the hook will pivot toward the front of the vehicle and will release the seat.

Once the seat was up, looking closely one could see where the seat "loop" was contacting the seat frame, and could see that the mechanism was not retracting the hook far enough back.

The mechanism has a slider, when that slider gets to the end of the slot then the hook is retracted.
I installed a brass bolt (double nuts and blue LocTite) at the end of the slot to take up space - so the slider hits the new brass bolt, activates the hook earlier and retracts it farther.

Also one of the "push bars" was bent, straightened it out.

Also greased up every moving bit I could see and get to.

Works reasonably well, hopefully it will continue to do so.

Yes, I know. Makes zero sense.

But if the seat is down tight and won't budge, this is how to get it up.
A long screwdriver pushing at just the right spot.
 
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