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Logic 7 Sound System worth it for ME?
It varies, IMO It still is a Harmon Kardon, lower end system. I have it, as it came in a package. I don't do any serious audiophile listening in the car, obviously, but wish I could have a basic one and then upgrade it with something better. If you don't plan upgrading, and get a good deal... -
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Order new LR4, Wait or Compromise?
I feel ambivalent about it: an Indian-made LR/RR?:frown: OTH, something needs to be done about their quality control issues: small, annoying, stupid stuff that goes wrong, like a brand new truck that refuses to start or the stupid surround cameras -
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About to Buy a LR4??
...a LR Driving school car =$ incentives from the factory to the dealer. Similar category as loaners, demos, program cars etc. The amount of incentives is known only to the Sales manager/GM etc. It will be a high gross car sold only at a very good profit, no questions. And that is fine... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
The author of the above post who promotes leasing fails to understand that current residuals (non-negotiable) are extremely conservative and appear to play safe re: the anticipated market value of a leased car when the lease is over. Simply put, residuals are undervalued, as the banks are not... -
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About to Buy a LR4??
On the contrary, if played right, the dealer will make $3-4K on the front end, and about the same on the back end. Used cars are the high gross makers, as no one (but the dealer) knows how much they " have in it" (due to incentives, factory-to-dealer allowances and a myriad of other things). New... -
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About to Buy a LR4??
The LUX you're talking about is in the category of higher profit vehicles for the dealer, so don't expect some stupid $8k discount. I would say around $56,5-57k is your target price. Good for the dealership (profit), and good for the customer(paying a lot less than an identical one with no... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
It is a myth that leasing is always cheaper than financing. It could be, but only if it is subsidized by the lending bank, i.e. cheap money, and artificially inflated residuals. The trouble is that it almost never happens these days, as the banks got burned doing it in the past. Those days are... -
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am I getting a good deal on an LR4?
I would avoid the "gas=prices" argument trying to negotiate a reasonable deal on a $60,000 truck, or risk being blown/laughed off and out of the dealership. Probably, comes down to "if you can't afford gas, you shouldn't be buying it" line of thinking. Besides, it gets 17.5m/gallon, if one... -
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am I getting a good deal on an LR4?
You probably can't lease this one, as it is 1 year old/used, so you'd be looking @ paying cash or financing. On this one you'd be giving up 1 year of warranty+mileage as well. If you are looking @ long-term ownership at a higher monthly investment with building equity, that's the one to go... -
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How long does it take you to detail your LR4
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Pay someone to do it for you pofesionally -
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am I getting a good deal on an LR4?
It is a decent, real world deal. Note that there are no special incentives on LR 's: residuals are not super-inflated, money factor is pretty average. Cap cost is aggressive for a demo. I'd take it, but ask for $15-20 off in monthly payments, just to see if any money is left on the table -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
Well, when I chose the model/equipment I liked with minimum cash out of pocket, bumped the mileage to 15K per year, the $599/m turned into 850, or so... That said, leasing is just fine, and depends on individual life circumstances, finances, car ownership patterns etc. ...when leasing, one... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
The $599/m lease is low mileage, doesn't include tax, fees etc and requires a high down payment/cap cost reduction, with an average money factor, on a rather basic HSE model (@ $54,500, or so, MSRP) ...Pass... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
The $599/m lease quoted above is a low mileage lease with significant down payment/cap cost reduction required upfront, doesn't include tax/dealer fees and is based on a pretty basic HSE model (@ $54,500 MSRP)... ...nothing special at all, actually -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
This is a low-mileage lease with sizeable upfront payment/lcap cost reduction on a pretty basic HSE model...tax, dealer fees not included...nothing special at all -
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New vs Used
No sales tax= $2.5-3k discount, based on other states' taxation rate. Also, as you mentioned, your dealer controls the market. I would explore if an out of state dealer might sell you a car, and not charge any sales tax, since your car would be registered/titled in OR. Something to check... -
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New vs Used
Ordering from the factory is always cheaper, as a dealer doesn't have to pay any floorplan fees. On in-stock new units, if a good negotiator, one could expect what is fair, around $1000-1500 over invoice. That allows the dealership to make average profit, and also keep you in good graces with... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
Actually, I too contemplated leasing mine, but there were no deals to be had: not great and not too horrible, just average.The money factor wasn't spectacular, residuals weren't artificially inflated. No special incentives to lease led me to finance it; as an added bonus, no mileage limitations... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
I am new here, so I apologize in advance, but I couldn't help it.. ...:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
The color is Zermatt silver, and the wheels are the standard LR4 wheel upgrade option @ $2500 (not sure of their name) that came that way from the factory. The whole thing MSRP's @ $60,165, I believe I test drove both standard 19" and optional 20's...liked the handling/ride + importantly, the... -
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New To Land Rover, HSE or HSE LUX?
I am new to Land Rover, purchased an LR4 LUX with optional 20" wheel package in silver 2 weeks ago. Was torn between a RRS, a Mercedes, an LR4 and less so, a Lexus GX. After driving /researching all of them, an LR was the obvious choice I had to have LUX because I really liked the LUX package...
