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    Comparison Test Request

    Excellent!!!! Thanks for sharing! 1st Gear on the 8-speed is 4.81, fyi. Impressive that it did that on all-season rubber. There are numerous videos out showcasing the different manufacturers approach to traction management and some seem to do better than others. This is the first I have seen...
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    Comparison Test Request

    I would like to provide data rather then hearsay to help people make an informed purchase and informed route planning. Sure, lockers and 2-speed would be fantastic and provide a capability and confidence. I would like to know how close a single speed with an 8-speed transmission can come to the...
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    Meridian audio system

    For those on the fence, either for this vehicle or something in the future, I think the best test is to listen to a quality audio source such as a CD (not your highly compressed recording on a phone or anything over the radio) and preferably one representative of the music you enjoy. Be sure to...
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    Comparison Test Request

    Researching vehicle options is difficult for those of us lacking the off-road experience to know anything. Add the evolution of off-road equipment, including electronically controlled differentials, torque vectoring, sway bar disconnects, etc. and one can quickly become overwhelmed. Finally, the...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    In my case, the desire to go off-roading exists but the experience does not and I do not have any friends who are knowledgeable to advise me. Land Rovers have the reputation for off-road ability and someone without experience/knowledge would perhaps purchase one assuming it was "ready to go...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Hopefully the last question(s) for this thread: What does the locker rear diff give you in real-world use? I think it is important in those moments when diagonal wheels are off the ground but does the '13 have enough techno-traction to handle those situations without a locker? For the...
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    Purchasing advice?

    That's good advice, and info. Thanks! For others who may read this, USAA has a buying service which suggests ~$1,800 off of a ~$65,000 MSRP. I don't know how much reimbursement the dealerships get from those services, but that let's us know the negotiation can happen. Finding someone willing...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Got it, thanks! And I will try to limit my excursions towards silliness. :)
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    - My first car was almost a '72 FJ40. It needed more work than I could afford or felt capable of doing myself as a 16 y.o. Some decisions affect you the rest of your life... I think it is time to make things right. :)
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Please correct me if needed: "In summary there are 3 levels of traction management: - Traction control only with single speed center diff This would be any '14-on Rover without the Heavy Duty Package or most other non-Jeep AWD/4WD vehicles in U.S. - Traction control with 2 speed...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    "a smaller engine with less grunt..." When I first started looking at the '13 and found one I liked I sent my brother a message, "She's the last of the V-8's!"
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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

    I didn't say < I > don't like it. :) It is actually high on my list and when I do a search I select every color except black and white, sometimes omitting silver too. I'm glad to know it looks good dirty as the dirt roads and Winter make for many months of dirty cars.
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Thanks! In your opinion, a comparable tire equipped '13 LR4 would be better than a '16 without the H/D package because of the low range -even with the added electronic traction control goodies on the '16? There is a decent selection of '13 LR4's without the H/D package but few with it for sale...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Thanks for the input. I was not aware that they were separate offerings in the previous model. To be clear- the '13 was available with locking diff. and two-speed case as separate options? One could order a '13 LR4 with locking diff and single speed transfer case? Thanks again, there is a lot...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Good point! I suppose they would be hesitant to take newcomers on anything risky.
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    Great Forum- Thanks!

    Hopefully I will be an owner within a couple of weeks.... Either way, a quick "Thank You" to the contributors to this forum. For those unaware, forums like this can be great resources but some of them are not nearly as pleasant to read as this one. A great community. Thanks, Randy S.E. Michigan
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    Purchasing advice?

    Hello, I am oh-so-close to buying a new LR4 Landmark and am wondering if any of you have any advice on the purchase (or lease?) process, specifically if the dealers are negotiating much on price or adding incentives. Obviously depends on the dealer and their inventory, etc. but if folks are...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Thanks! Realistically for me, it will probably never see anything seriously challenging. If I need a winch, I probably won't be out there in my vehicle. I heard back from the manager at Land Rover LakeSide (in case you need it: http://www.landroverlakeside.com) and he said that they do Bundy...
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    LR4 Offroad Performance WITHOUT Heavey Duty Package

    Has anyone here done or seen an apples-to-apples comparison of an LR4 on anything technical with and then without low range engaged? I appreciate the advantage on steep descents and for serious crawling, but would a competent driver be able to handle mild technical terrain w/o the low range...
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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

    Perhaps someone can offer advice: dedicated off-road tires and single speed '16 vs same tires/wheels on a 2-speed '13? If I am not going extreme but doing some crawling do I really need the 2-speed?
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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

    Regarding the dial shifting- are there any tactile indications of gear selection/knob position?
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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

    A new Lux w/o two-speed case and a '13 HSE with two-speed transfer case and very low miles. The '13 color is unpopular red so it has been on the lot for a long time- something close to two years, I think, and that scares me a bit.
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    LR5 Release Updates?

    As the owner of an '11 Explorer I think it is important to point out the significant differences between the vehicles. Ford had the checklist of "luxury" and off-road items and dutifully ensured that boxes were checked- without giving care to the quality of the products going in or the resulting...
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    First Impressions (Going from MY13 LR4/NAV8 to MY16 LR4/SCV6)

    Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I am on the fence between a new Lux and a low-mileage '13. Hoping to do a back-to-back test drive this week.

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