has anyone upgraded to this metal tranny pan?

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Your local LR Mechanic has no interest in making this easier for you in the future, is trying to scare you away and has no interest in doing the job because it takes a bit of extra effort.
Once the metal pan is in place, the filter change becomes a whole lot easier next time!

There is nothing wrong with paper gaskets if you know what you are doing, this forum has recommended Lubelocker, which is what I used and I was very impressed.

The replacement pan of course must be from ZF, easy to source and a perfect exact match as the metal or plastic pan options are sold to all auto manufacturers - it's the auto manufacturers option.
Rover most likely chose plastic to save a pound and possibly to make owner repairs more challenging.

The pans absolutely do not leak if they are properly torqued. Lots of folks out there, and some on this forum, who torque it by hand - and if you do that it is likely going to leak.
It requires a small torque wrench and a stubby socket to get in there on a couple of the bolts - it takes some extra time and attention to do it correctly - which is why most of us on the forum do the work ourselves.
My favorite dealerships told me point blank that they hire independent contractors to do the work - if they complete it fast, they make more money because they can do more jobs.
Independent shops, in my experience, simply do not have the experience to do anything correctly.

This job is not particularly difficult, but parts of of are a PITA, dirty and potentially dangerous if you don't follow proper safety practices.

That video up above has alot of details, and if you can stay awake (!), you will come to understand that it does take some knowledge to do this correctly and safely.
(No, I do not make any $ when folks watch the video, I do this mostly for myself so I can remember how to do it next time. And hopefully other find them useful as well.)

Whichever route anyone takes - good luck!
 

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this forum has recommended Lubelocker
This is the route I will go along with the metal pan when I do mine in a couple months. I think standard paper gaskets are fine for sealing vertical mating surfaces where you are not going to have fluids being held in by them, otherwise they suck for oil or transmission pans unless they are a composite type.
 

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Your local LR Mechanic has no interest in making this easier for you in the future, is trying to scare you away and has no interest in doing the job because it takes a bit of extra effort.
Once the metal pan is in place, the filter change becomes a whole lot easier next time!

There is nothing wrong with paper gaskets if you know what you are doing, this forum has recommended Lubelocker, which is what I used and I was very impressed.

The replacement pan of course must be from ZF, easy to source and a perfect exact match as the metal or plastic pan options are sold to all auto manufacturers - it's the auto manufacturers option.
Rover most likely chose plastic to save a pound and possibly to make owner repairs more challenging.

The pans absolutely do not leak if they are properly torqued. Lots of folks out there, and some on this forum, who torque it by hand - and if you do that it is likely going to leak.
It requires a small torque wrench and a stubby socket to get in there on a couple of the bolts - it takes some extra time and attention to do it correctly - which is why most of us on the forum do the work ourselves.
My favorite dealerships told me point blank that they hire independent contractors to do the work - if they complete it fast, they make more money because they can do more jobs.
Independent shops, in my experience, simply do not have the experience to do anything correctly.

This job is not particularly difficult, but parts of of are a PITA, dirty and potentially dangerous if you don't follow proper safety practices.

That video up above has alot of details, and if you can stay awake (!), you will come to understand that it does take some knowledge to do this correctly and safely.
(No, I do not make any $ when folks watch the video, I do this mostly for myself so I can remember how to do it next time. And hopefully other find them useful as well.)

Whichever route anyone takes - good luck!
It takes the mechanic way less effort to install the metal pan and separate filter as the transmission does not need to be unbolted from the cross member, nor does it need to be jacked to remove and install the new ZF pan/filter.
 

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This is the route I will go along with the metal pan when I do mine in a couple months. I think standard paper gaskets are fine for sealing vertical mating surfaces where you are not going to have fluids being held in by them, otherwise they suck for oil or transmission pans unless they are a composite type.
I went this way, I have no regrets and no issues, just take your time and be really thorough per other posts.
 

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is this aftermarket metal pan and removable filter option available anywhere for the 8 speed ZF's in the later model years? AB and Luck8 don't seem to have them - they only have the 6-speed variants
 

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I haven't seen metal version or separate pan/filter option for the later 8-speeds

But at least the non-integrated pick up tube isn't in the way of removal?
 

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I don't know - I thought it was still integrated in the 8-speed pan?
 

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I just finished this new trans pan process and while not easy as getting to a couple of bolts, front and rear 4 required some special tools do to minimal room, its very doable. If you didn't get the answer and still looking for help let me know...
 

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