Think you know my vote, lol.
Wash After Service?
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Think you know my vote, lol.
YES, Detail. ABsolutely.
Finlayforprez
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I am leaning toward having it done, just don't want them screw anything up as far as paint scratches, etc. The techs are sloppy, but the detail guy is a full-time guy that comes for a few hours a day - maybe he will be good.
david go for it. make sure they wax it, not just wash. I would do it if I were you. Talk to the detail guy before hand and ask what he will be doing and what products they use. I always do that before I let a detail place touch my car. You'll get a good idea about them by asking them a few questions.
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If you can talk to the guy before he starts and hand him a couple of 20s, he will do a much better job. Trust me. 
Rob
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If you can talk to the guy before he starts and hand him a couple of 20s, he will do a much better job. Trust me.
Rob
Like that idea!
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$20.00 bills always make people work harder - better yet, since this detail will be free, I'd even go for the $50.00.If you can talk to the guy before he starts and hand him a couple of 20s, he will do a much better job. Trust me.
Rob
I am going to look into it more and see and then maybe make an appointment. Right now my truck is filthy on the outside! I cleaned the inside after my trip to Bodega Bay because I could not stand my dog's fur blowing around the cabin. Luckily he's a low shedding dog and really great in the car. He sits in the back seat like a person - haha!
Hey David, after reading your first post it brought back many memories of dealer nightmares, and I just found a nail in my tire last night.
Just a few facts on tires and repair kits using plugs. I have one in my vechicle, but its used as a last resort in an emergency. Yes they will out last the tire and get you home. As of a couple years ago they were not approved repairs in a few states. I do not know why though. It might have changed since then.
Why are they not the suggested repair method? Lets dissect your tire, removing the rubber, underneath you have the steel radials that line the tire. This is like a steel gauze or mesh. This is what provides the structure of the tire and weight ratings, cornering abilities, etc. When you repair your tire, lets say pulling out that nail or screw that we have all gotten at one time our another. Then compare it to the folded leather plug. Its much thicker than the nail/ screw, resulting in steel radials getting disturbed. This results in a very annoying noise in the tire. Like a whomp, whomp, whomp, etc.
Like I said, I have a kit in my vechicle, for emergency use. Nails in the center section of the tire can be repaired using a patch. The outside threads cannot be repaired by a patch resulting in you buying a new tire, so that I would plug.
Just some food for thought. To the other part of your post, I feel your pain. I had my LR4 @ the dealer and recieved a door ding while it was there. I was so ******. They removed the ding and gave me $350. to have the small scratch fixed, which I did myself.
I would take the free detail. Why not? Their body shop will probally do it, or it will go to an outside company that they use for proffesional detailing.
Frank
Just a few facts on tires and repair kits using plugs. I have one in my vechicle, but its used as a last resort in an emergency. Yes they will out last the tire and get you home. As of a couple years ago they were not approved repairs in a few states. I do not know why though. It might have changed since then.
Why are they not the suggested repair method? Lets dissect your tire, removing the rubber, underneath you have the steel radials that line the tire. This is like a steel gauze or mesh. This is what provides the structure of the tire and weight ratings, cornering abilities, etc. When you repair your tire, lets say pulling out that nail or screw that we have all gotten at one time our another. Then compare it to the folded leather plug. Its much thicker than the nail/ screw, resulting in steel radials getting disturbed. This results in a very annoying noise in the tire. Like a whomp, whomp, whomp, etc.
Like I said, I have a kit in my vechicle, for emergency use. Nails in the center section of the tire can be repaired using a patch. The outside threads cannot be repaired by a patch resulting in you buying a new tire, so that I would plug.
Just some food for thought. To the other part of your post, I feel your pain. I had my LR4 @ the dealer and recieved a door ding while it was there. I was so ******. They removed the ding and gave me $350. to have the small scratch fixed, which I did myself.
I would take the free detail. Why not? Their body shop will probally do it, or it will go to an outside company that they use for proffesional detailing.
Frank
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Hi Franky,
As I have a long history of repairing my own punctures, I have a couple of comments to offer regarding your post.
The plugs are not leather. They are a very pliable rubber. While one must use a tool to make the hole uniformly round and of an appropriate size to accept the plug, the plug itself does not make the hole wider. Nor does the plug disturb the reinforcing belt in the tire. The nail did that. Putting a plug in it won't disturb it more. And putting a patch over the hole won't magically repair the hole in the belt.
I've never experienced the whomp-whomp-whomp you mentioned.
Your point about a plugged tire being able to maintain the standard of its speed or load rating is an interesting one. I've never seen anything in writing about that, whether the method of repair is plug or patch. But I'd really be interested in seeing it. It would take a lot though for me to stop using my repair kit. It's faster and easier than putting on the spare. And way more convenient that taking a flat tire to the tire store to be removed from the rim, patched from the inside, remounted, and rebalanced.
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After doing a little searching, I found out that for most tires, the speed and load ratings are invalidated after a puncture, regardless of the repair. This is for legal reasons, the idea being that the manufacturer cannot control the quality of the repair. Still, practically speaking, I wonder. Maybe I'll send a question off to ARB technical service.
As I have a long history of repairing my own punctures, I have a couple of comments to offer regarding your post.
The plugs are not leather. They are a very pliable rubber. While one must use a tool to make the hole uniformly round and of an appropriate size to accept the plug, the plug itself does not make the hole wider. Nor does the plug disturb the reinforcing belt in the tire. The nail did that. Putting a plug in it won't disturb it more. And putting a patch over the hole won't magically repair the hole in the belt.
I've never experienced the whomp-whomp-whomp you mentioned.
Your point about a plugged tire being able to maintain the standard of its speed or load rating is an interesting one. I've never seen anything in writing about that, whether the method of repair is plug or patch. But I'd really be interested in seeing it. It would take a lot though for me to stop using my repair kit. It's faster and easier than putting on the spare. And way more convenient that taking a flat tire to the tire store to be removed from the rim, patched from the inside, remounted, and rebalanced.
Edited to add:
After doing a little searching, I found out that for most tires, the speed and load ratings are invalidated after a puncture, regardless of the repair. This is for legal reasons, the idea being that the manufacturer cannot control the quality of the repair. Still, practically speaking, I wonder. Maybe I'll send a question off to ARB technical service.
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Hey Captain, Thanks for the info, and I have seen leather plugs, this was many years ago and the plug in my slime kit is the rubber you mention. I had a tire plugged in my '89 Caddy, this had to be in the 90's and the plug was leather (looked almost like the leather used to stich up a baseball glove, same color too). I saw the small screw come out and the reamer used to open the hole more to fit the plug. I did get a noise out of the tire after the repair.
Like I said, I was just stating that the mesh would be disturbed possible causing the noise. I did not say it would compromise the speed rating, etc. It would be interesting to hear what ARB has to say.
Anyway, this is for what forums are for, learning. Thanks for looking the info up as I did find your post a good read. I'm just a?%l at times and I would always prefer the patch over the plug. But like you said, its alot faster doing it yourself. I sat inside the tire place for an hour before they finished.
Take care, and have a good weekend.
Like I said, I was just stating that the mesh would be disturbed possible causing the noise. I did not say it would compromise the speed rating, etc. It would be interesting to hear what ARB has to say.
Anyway, this is for what forums are for, learning. Thanks for looking the info up as I did find your post a good read. I'm just a?%l at times and I would always prefer the patch over the plug. But like you said, its alot faster doing it yourself. I sat inside the tire place for an hour before they finished.
Take care, and have a good weekend.
