Replacing my Engine
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Disco Mike
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First, why are you replacing it, what are you going to use as a replacement a 4.0 or a 4.6?
Rovers don't have timing belts, but yes there are a number of things to replace on the the new engine going back in, plugs, 8 mm Magnacore wires front tranny seal rear engine main seal, probably a crank sensor, t/stat, hoses fluids and all sorts of stuff.
What are you putting back in a new, used, rebuilt, long block or short block? Have you ever done anything like this before?
Rovers don't have timing belts, but yes there are a number of things to replace on the the new engine going back in, plugs, 8 mm Magnacore wires front tranny seal rear engine main seal, probably a crank sensor, t/stat, hoses fluids and all sorts of stuff.
What are you putting back in a new, used, rebuilt, long block or short block? Have you ever done anything like this before?
We are replacing it because while we were driving it, the car stalled and then smoke started pouring out of the hood. The mechanic says that the engine locked up, and that we will need a new one. We are getting a 4.0 engine. We have had the car for only 3 months. We are buying a used, long block (I think) engine with 77,000 miles. What about the water pump?
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Will the engine turn over?
Used long block, you think, you could scare someone.
Is it or isn't a complete engine, does it come with a warranty and what are you paying for it?
Be specific.
Used long block, you think, you could scare someone.
Is it or isn't a complete engine, does it come with a warranty and what are you paying for it?
Be specific.
I'm sorry, but I don't know much about it. I think it just comes with the engine. I am paying $1,300 for it. It comes with a 90 day warrenty. As for being a long block, I can't say for sure. And no, the current engine in it will not turn over.
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@77 grand your timing chain should be fine (i.e., that should be included with the long-block along with the whole front cover which includes the oil-pump as well) but, then again, do you know why the old engine seized in the first place (i.e., possibly a broken timing-chain [LoL])?
That's not a bad price on the newer long block and the warranty is standard (pretty much) ; did they give you any sort of run-down/check list on the condition of this newer mill : i.e. - did they give you a compression-test list (i.e., which cylinder is @ which psi)? Try and get some sort of idea what you are looking at as you don't want to be doing a valve-job in 90 days time.
Also, get a break-down on precisley what they mean by 'long-block' as this seems to vary a bit (i.e., it might include water-pump and all pulley items but some outfits draw the line at alternator [as in you have to provide that yourself]).
One other thing to keep an eye on in your newer Landi 4.00 liter mill - use the best oil you can afford and do not put heavy grade in unless you are in an extremely warm climate and even then don't treat it like your average slightly-aged North American V8 because it is not (even though it is based on an old Buick V8 design); - the tolerances that the Brits machine these engines to are ridiculously tight and if you go for too heavy a grade you will not be doing your mill any favors.
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That's not a bad price on the newer long block and the warranty is standard (pretty much) ; did they give you any sort of run-down/check list on the condition of this newer mill : i.e. - did they give you a compression-test list (i.e., which cylinder is @ which psi)? Try and get some sort of idea what you are looking at as you don't want to be doing a valve-job in 90 days time.
Also, get a break-down on precisley what they mean by 'long-block' as this seems to vary a bit (i.e., it might include water-pump and all pulley items but some outfits draw the line at alternator [as in you have to provide that yourself]).
One other thing to keep an eye on in your newer Landi 4.00 liter mill - use the best oil you can afford and do not put heavy grade in unless you are in an extremely warm climate and even then don't treat it like your average slightly-aged North American V8 because it is not (even though it is based on an old Buick V8 design); - the tolerances that the Brits machine these engines to are ridiculously tight and if you go for too heavy a grade you will not be doing your mill any favors.
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Okay, I just called the guy I am ordering the engine from, and he said that it comes with everything attached except the alternator, starter and air conditioner. He also said that it is more than a long block or a short block. As for the oil, could you recommend a good type of oil to start with.
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So, although the engine comes with most of the goodies, you still have an engine with 77,000 miles so parts will be necessary like a t/stat, may a water pump, rear main seal, front tranny seal, hoses, spark plugs and new plug wires, a crank sensor.
I would also suggest you do an engine flush, once the engine is installed and has been run, as well as an induction to cut some old carbon.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
I would also suggest you do an engine flush, once the engine is installed and has been run, as well as an induction to cut some old carbon.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
I'd think about replacing the intake manifold gasket as well. Most of them leak out the back side. Went to a British car show this summer a fellow with a spitfire had dumped a rover v8 in it. Claims they make a really good carbon fiber gasket that is much improved.
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Disco Mike has some good practical advice there!
As for oil - I have been happy with Royal Purple's synth 5W-40 - as my 1997 4.00 liter seems to really like that expensive stuff. Then again - when I travelled down to SoCal a couple of summers ago - I changed the oil at a Rover specialist's in Annaheim and he used a regular grade Kendall oil - which it really liked in that heat. So, you may have to experiment a little for your climate, terrain and driving habits but just stay to the better oils as these engines seem to really appreciate that diffrence.
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