Parking brake

[grommet]

If you are not on a hill, it really doesn't matter.

But if I'm on a hill... I generally stop/brake and apply the parking brake first (probably a habit since I've driven manuals most of my life)... then I put it into Park. I never let it sit in Neutral... don't see much point in it.

 

[xcursion]

Guys, there are many ways of doing this (I personally use the "Amir" way) and I am sure there is good reason behind every method. Just chose whichever way you feel most comfortable about.

 

[steve c]

OK, so when you put the car in drive and you hear a loud "clunk" when the locking pin gets pulled out (this is the pin that has the STRESS of 5400 lbs of car trying to roll down a hill) - then this is GOOD for it? I thank you for clearing that up, because it sounded bad for it for a second.

And this folks is why us engineers don't like to try explaining things to sales people. Continue being a ****** -- the world won't end.

 

[roverman]

It's ok, you're just stressed.
Engineers aren't really "people" people are they?

p.s. If you can explain the loud clunk, I'm sure you'd really shine! (or at least gain a modicum of credibility)

 

[roverman]

I will preface this by saying I have yet to use my emergency brake. At the outset, I was trying to help Amir, who is a huge stickler on car care. It's annoying to me when know-it-all's just state something and offer no logic to backup their statement at all. Instead the only argument offered was that I am a "******".
Found on the web, along with numerous other articles:

"In regard to the transmission, when you place the shift lever in "park," the linkage engages a steel "pawl," or finger, into a detent to mechanically lock the transmission and keep the vehicle from moving. If you're parked on a significant hill or grade, the weight of the vehicle ends up "leaning" on this pawl engagement, often making it difficult to pull the shift lever out of the park position when you're ready to drive away.

Having the leverage of the vehicle's weight "leaning" on the pawl isn't particularly ******* the transmission, but your efforts to pull or force the shift lever out of park can potentially bend or damage these components. Setting the parking brake -- regardless of terrain -- before shifting into park reduces the load on the parking pawl as well."

food for thought steve-o. I can also pull up the popular mechanic's article (among others) on it if you like. Please don't go back to the brick and the lock thing..
Roverman

reference from the minnesota star tribune: http://www.startribune.com/131/story/219668.html

 

[xcursion]

I hope we won't have to take it to the playground after school...

 

[schafari]

As I mentioned many posts ago, this parking pawl is part of the transmission and if it has stress on it from engaging on a hill, and the weight of the truck is on it, you will induce more wear and stress to various parts of the truck in disengaging it.

No one is saying you will break something or don't do it. Rather, it is easily avoided and some of us do it by simply applying he parking brake. Wear and tear on the parking brake rather than a ZF tranny is always a good thing.

Steve, if you are an engineer, you must understand this. I can bend a paperclip many times. However, after one to many times it breaks. That is not random. It is because the stress of repeated bending weakened the material. Having to crank on the shifter to get the car out of park on a steep hill induces more stress. It may never brake, (catch the pun?) but on the other hand, it is very common to have happen. Anything that I can do to reduce stress on any component, I'll do. I save the stress on this vehicle for the trails and towing.

 

[steve c]

Then don't drive your car, god forbid you stress it.

 

[ghazz]

Heh...





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[schafari]

Well, with that snippet of iluminating intelligence, I believe this thread has run its course. . .