for what it is worth, we just traded our 05 SE (1st LR3 the dealership sold) for an 08 HSE. Our SE had every option available so it was essentially an HSE with 18 wheels. The 08 feels like a completely different car. It is much tighter and feels more solid. There are very few changes that are visible, mostly cosmetic, but it does feel like there are more structural changes. The steering feels tighter. The transmission shifts much better. If nothing else, being able to adjust the seats properly is enough to trade. The bluetooth works great (have tested my blackberry 7130 and my wifes KRAZR). We did get the factory DVD system (actually a Rosen). Audio does come through the stereo, but is not loud by any means. Not sure how this will work at highway speeds, but it does come with 2 sets of wireless headphones and a game contoller (25 games preloaded). It is a clean install and looks very factory. Overall, very pleased with our decision to trade. The only thing I am not that impressed with or feel is worth the money is the luxury package. I honestly think the standard leather would hold up better and I think the cooler box will only be used once every year or so.