OEM wheel stud size?

[nwoods]

LOL, your argument is that someone else's opinion that might agree with you is more valid that someone else's opinion that does not? How does it change the fact we are only talking about opinions?

You are wanting to push the envelope by reducing the capability of a vehicle? By taking what is by all published accounts one of the most capable and VERSATILE vehicles ever created and totally confining it to one environment in which it can not even perform very well?

What you are doing with your rig is fine, no one really cares. But please be honest with yourself and with us. You are doing it solely for cosmetic reasons and are not adding any capability whatsoever to the rig, in any environment it which it might be used.

Now, I'm pretty sure all of use would agree that that OEM accessories are pretty lame. With rare exception most of them do not add any capability to the rig, they are primarily cosmetic, and dubiously so.

Now tell me honestly, is a world of cosmetics and appearance the Real World? Many would argue it is not. Beauty has its place, it comes right after function.
" When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty but when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.” —Buckminster Fuller

Enjoy your rig, revel in your successful experimentation with whatever you want to do to it, but do not dare to devalue MY opinion at the expense of your own, and do not be fooled by outcomes of your experimentation. Novel and unique? Sure, perhaps. Pushing the envelope? No, only folding it and sealing it. You are taking a multidimensional vehicle and restricting it at great compromise.

Having said all that, I still agree with Frank Lloyd Wright who said " Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities.”

 

[Houm_WA]

Daveking,

First of all don't be a ****** by first calling us all middle-aged White guys and second stating it like it's an insult. We are who we are and whether we're Black, White, Asian, Latino or whatever....our opinions are all valid.

The point is that yes, you can do whatever your sense of style drives you to do with a vehicle and it's all your choice. ...but like I said before, read a few posts and figure out what your expectation is with your post. The majority of us are types that take the LR3 offroad. So we will not generally appreciate what you've got going on with the 24s.

....unless you still have the stock rims and put some Zeons on it for your offroading trips, then you might be okay. That's doubtful. What you've done is about on the same parallel as if I'd bought an S55 AMG and fitted it with mud tires and an ARB bullbar up front...and a winch! ...and then for got measure went to a Mercedes enthusiast message board posting pictures trying to garner accolades.

I'm glad you like your rims....but it pains me to look at an LR3 being abused in such a way.

 

[daveking]

its all good.

 

[CoMclovin]

Ok I have to jump in here... this is hillarious. First of all DaveKing no offense you're not the first to have 24"s on a LR3. Sorry it's been done before. Second of all, you obviously appear to have no concept of the vehicle you own. (which is fine) There are forums all over the internet for Rovers and the LR3 alike. With that being said, I would wager that more people care about the capabilities of the LR3 than you would think. I personally find that statement a bit insane. Many people buy a LR3 because of it's capabilities, including members of this forum, and of the general public. Making sweeping generalizations and/or assumptions is ignorant. You're more than welcome to customize your vehicle as you see fit. It's yours to enjoy.. just realize people will have bad things to say just as people will have good things to say..


with that being said.. I do have a question:

Do you notice a breaking difference with the 24"s?

Cheers!

 

[duckdive]

Wow!! I always wondered what that buddie/ignore list was for in the User CP section above.
Now I know. But what do I know I'm just a middle aged white guy.

 

[richpike]

Ok so googling quotes to help prove your opinion, is weak. Sorry, it is. I dont live my life by cliches.. and no famous politican or philosopher is necessary to undermind your opinion. Clearly, it sucks.. for anyone other than.. well, you. Let me re-state this, one more time.. so listen up haters.. no one besides this cultish forum TRULY cares about what the capabilities are of this vehicle. otherwise it would include alllllllot more members. Millions of people worldwide, however.. do care about the aesthetics of vehicles, do care about customizing their vehicles, and so on. Logic proves that.. for if no one cared about how anything looked, wed all have ugly cars, houses, girlfriends, etc..or rather such a reaction, emotion, etc.. wouldnt exist. Right??..
And about this performance bit... lol.. if you are naive to think even the majority (do you understand that word?).. eveeeen the majority of people that bought lr3s bought them for performance reasons first.. you are just being a homer. you are like a mental midget, standing on the grounds of an online forum. thats right, i said it. There are 10000000s of people that customize their vehicles, and you are just upset because some people arent satisfied with putting a roof rack on and going to the trails. Now just because my vehicle can do alot more things, doesnt mean its any less of a beautiful machine because i dont take it offroad. Geeze?? is this elementary?...So dont talk to me about disapointing a vehicle, what you see as unimportant IS important to me.. and IFFF..my ride ends up in a magazine one day, and yours doesnt...you can eat that bulls%^& about performance with a fork and spoon. let me also mention, the PERFORMANCE of my 24s.. is riding fantastic. Thanks.

daveking - I was keeping my mouth shut on this all, because I could honestly not care less what you do with your car - to each his own. But believe me when I say you are walking on some thin ice here - there are few people in the world who know as much about Land Rovers as nwoods. There was also a *very* interesting article in the latest Land Rover Lifestyles magazine where they interviewed the product planners for Land Rover - they know who their target customer is, and it is more focused on people like nwoods (and the rest of the "mental midgets") on this board, than it is on someone putting 24s on their LR3.

One final comment - you can talk about the "PERFORMANCE" of your 24s all you want, but in reality, you have hurt the performance of your LR3. Assuming you added several inches to the rolling diameter of your wheel (which you probably did, unless you are running 255/30R24 - i.e. 30 series tires), you have just added a great deal of additional stress to the braking system, steering system and suspension of your LR3. Regardless, you have also added a large amount of additional unsprung weight, which has a direct impact on the PERFORMANCE of your vehicle.

BTW - I'm pretty sure Nathan has been in many a magazine already - but unlike some people, he is not someone to brag about it.

-Rich

 

[daveking]

its all good.

 

[nwoods]

does anyone of you here understand the difference between modifications done for aesthetic value..compared to performance value?

Sure...kinda like this?

It's kinda cool in it's own way, but now you've got an incredibly heavy inefficient vehicle with more tires than it needs and no ability to haul anything. It's been reduced in capability and purpose by the modifications.

... I dont look at my lr3 as an offroad toy so I can look like Im on some elitist ****, it is a beautiful luxury vehicle in my OPINION and if I want to do whatever I want to do it..I will.

It's just a few steps above a utilitarian tractor compared to the upper end of the Land Rover lineup. Why did you get an LR3 instead of a Range Rover or Range Rover Sport? With the supercharger, active swaylink system, firmer ride, more responsive throttle and ample BLING support in the aftermarket, it would seem more appropriate. Did you know that the RRS and the LR3 are actually the same vehicle, just with a different body and interior? Same everything mechanically and in capablity. However, on RangerRovers.net, you will find a forum where people are more street oriented. For example: http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=27543

Now, like I said, the RRS is the same mechanically as the LR3, so it's a still a shame to see people only get half their money's worth when they do stuff like that. After all, it can do this too!

 

[daveking]

i couldnt help myself....i said i wouldnt comment anymore, but... that range rover is pretty clean..i cant lie! its murdered out, lookin' nice!! Thats my point... i cant hate on something that looks that good! ...but honestly, i think the lr3 is a BETTER looking vehicle than say, a range rover hse...honest. now the sports, are sweeeet. but thats just my opinion.

,
Dave

 

[CoMclovin]

DaveKing, enjoy your ride, it's yours. But again as I've said, I've seen two rides here locally in CO that have 24s on em. Ironically I passed one last week, silver with 24s. Next time I'll snap a pic for you.