Timing Chain repair costs

[ktm525]

Chain stretched ? Maybe, maybe not. The tensioner problem is that they groove and don't actuate out far enough to keep the chain tight during the pulses that occur with an internal combustion engine. If it was me I would replace the chain while in their but it may not be necessary to do so.

Some believe there is a little nozzle behind the tensioner that uses oil pressure. If this orifice gets clogged not enough oil pressure and voila the tensioner does not work as well as it should.

 

[mbw]

I have a 2013 LR4. I was curious if my LR4 would have this issue... so I compared the vin ranges.

---- (TSB DETAILS...)
TIMING CHAIN GUIDES ISSUE AJ133 5.0 V8
TSB LTB00474NAS3 19 MAY 2015 (section 303-01) Rattle/Click noise from front of engine
LR4 2010-2012 VIN AA513326 to CA652214
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My mid-2013 LR4 vin = *

I put a star next to where my vin is.. youll notice its NOT the latest and shares parts with the effected VIN range!. So my VIN is AFTER the end of the VINs on the TSB, but has some of the same part numbers. My only guess here is that the part numbers and vin ranges are not perfectly matched up somehow. I can't explain it. My 2013 *SHOULD* be safe, but based on my research I am not 100% certain.


LR011900 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower AA00001 to CA615288
LR034466 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower CA615289 to CA632917
LR042667 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower CA632918 to EA720633 *
LR059161 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower EA720634
LR032714 Timing Chain lubricating jet, upper (all vins) *
LR012004 Timing Chain AA000001 to CA615288
LR032048 Timing Chain CA615289 and on *
LR010883 Timing Chain Tensioner AA000001 to CA615288
LR032088 Timing Chain Tensioner CA615289 to DA696317 * (tsb ends with CA652214 in this range).
LR051008 Timing Chain Tensioner DA696315 and on (mentioned as fix part in TSB)
LR010769 Timing chain tensioner blade AA000001 to AA999999
LR024839 Timing chain tensioner blade BA000001 to CA615288
LR032090 Timing chain tensioner blade CA615289 to CA628207
LR040977 Timing chain tensioner blade CA628208 to DA696314 * (tsb ends with CA652214 in this range).
LR051013 Timing chain tensioner blade DA696315 (mentioned as fix part in tsb, called 'lever')
LR012642 LH Timing Chain Guide AA000001 to DA696314 *
LR051012 LH Timing Chain Guide DA696315 and on
LR010765 RH Timing Chain Guide AA000001 to DA696314 *
LR051011 RH Timing Chain Guide DA696315 and on

 

[cperez]

I put a star next to where my vin is.. youll notice its NOT the latest and shares parts with the effected VIN range!

I'm in the same situation with my MY13's -DA695*** VIN. I'm hoping that being outside of the overall range for the affected VINs will ward off any bad mojo. Hope is a very effective strategy for vehicle maintenance, after all.

 

[ttforcefed]

For a 2014 LR4 HSE Lux when should I be looking at this being concerning?? If I do the 7500 mile oil changes on it should I not have to worry about it until 150,000 plus?? How does one tell that it's time to change? Is it the noise that was described in the original thread?

no the 2013+ arent impacted. see here:
https://www.landroverworld.org/attachments/ltb00474nas3-engine-rattle-pdf.6742/

 

[Ric in Richmond]

Just got mine back. No longer sounds like a diesel! Sounds great actually.

Attached are photos of the wear spots on the back of the arms. Those holes are deep...maybe an eighth of an inch. The part would have been flush originally.

All that aluminum is either in the pan or the filter hopefully. I know we would get flecks in the filter.

Tech showed me how both of the tensioners had failed. The tensioners expand and a ratchet mechanism is supposed to prevent them from retracting. Both tensioners would collapse with finger pressure.

Had in case that had a cracked off ear so that had to be replaced. Oil change and an inspection. $3400 out the door.

If you are anywhere near Richmond va I would recommend David Word automotive.

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[RBA]

I'm still a little confused between the pdf TSB and what MBW posted.

I have a '13 with a DA658XXX . So it's outside of the PDF TSB but potentially within certain parts being updated??

I was thinking of keeping this truck (I've owned it since new) because it's fully loaded with an HD package but if it's within range, I'd rather just trade it in now while it's still running perfectly.

 

[ttforcefed]

ok now im sufficiently confused as well. i have DA694313

 

[gsxr]

I was thinking of keeping this truck (I've owned it since new) because it's fully loaded with an HD package but if it's within range, I'd rather just trade it in now while it's still running perfectly.

I can't answer the TSB question, but I don't understand why you'd trade it in, unless you're just not that attached to the LR4? If there's something you'd prefer to replace it with, then ok, I understand the attraction to trading. Otherwise, why not just keep up with oil changes on schedule using approved fluids (IMO, improper service is the primary cause of failure) and pay for the repairs if ever needed?

I'm at ~120k (second owner) and chain-rattle-free, but I'm planning to pay the piper when the time comes. Currently, there's nothing else I'm aware of that we'd be happy with as a replacement.

 

[Quijote]

I have a 2013 LR4. I was curious if my LR4 would have this issue... so I compared the vin ranges.

---- (TSB DETAILS...)
TIMING CHAIN GUIDES ISSUE AJ133 5.0 V8
TSB LTB00474NAS3 19 MAY 2015 (section 303-01) Rattle/Click noise from front of engine
LR4 2010-2012 VIN AA513326 to CA652214
-----

My mid-2013 LR4 vin = *

I put a star next to where my vin is.. youll notice its NOT the latest and shares parts with the effected VIN range!. So my VIN is AFTER the end of the VINs on the TSB, but has some of the same part numbers. My only guess here is that the part numbers and vin ranges are not perfectly matched up somehow. I can't explain it. My 2013 *SHOULD* be safe, but based on my research I am not 100% certain.


LR011900 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower AA00001 to CA615288
LR034466 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower CA615289 to CA632917
LR042667 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower CA632918 to EA720633 *
LR059161 Timing Chain lubricating jet, lower EA720634
LR032714 Timing Chain lubricating jet, upper (all vins) *
LR012004 Timing Chain AA000001 to CA615288
LR032048 Timing Chain CA615289 and on *
LR010883 Timing Chain Tensioner AA000001 to CA615288
LR032088 Timing Chain Tensioner CA615289 to DA696317 * (tsb ends with CA652214 in this range).
LR051008 Timing Chain Tensioner DA696315 and on (mentioned as fix part in TSB)
LR010769 Timing chain tensioner blade AA000001 to AA999999
LR024839 Timing chain tensioner blade BA000001 to CA615288
LR032090 Timing chain tensioner blade CA615289 to CA628207
LR040977 Timing chain tensioner blade CA628208 to DA696314 * (tsb ends with CA652214 in this range).
LR051013 Timing chain tensioner blade DA696315 (mentioned as fix part in tsb, called 'lever')
LR012642 LH Timing Chain Guide AA000001 to DA696314 *
LR051012 LH Timing Chain Guide DA696315 and on
LR010765 RH Timing Chain Guide AA000001 to DA696314 *
LR051011 RH Timing Chain Guide DA696315 and on

I'm confused. Where did this part list come from? Why are you concerned that a couple of parts are in "unaffected" LR4's?

 

[RBA]

I'm confused. Where did this part list come from? Why are you concerned that a couple of parts are in "unaffected" LR4's?

Perhaps I'm not comprehending what MBW posted..??

He's listing updated part numbers and the corresponding VIN #'s. So my VIN is outside the TSB as noted in the PDF but I don't necessarily have all the updated parts per MBW's post. Correct me if I'm wrong...


GSXR - The LR4 is a 3rd vehicle for me and not my daily anymore. For trail runs/camping trips, it depends on what type of terrain we go on, that determines whether I take the LR4 or not. I have it just slightly modified for my purposes (dual battery setup, power for fridge, AT tires, fully armored underneath, GAP tool for lift only on trail). I like the truck very much but every so often miss my g-wagen.