Installation question: lamp guards and rear access ladder

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goblue95

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alegrialv...as requested here's a pic from the front/side. You'll see that in addition to the rear lamp guards, I've also installed the short roof rails and cross bars, the side molding and mud flaps... have had it for about 5 months, loving the car so far.

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Oh droool. Goblue...that's a beauty...I can't wait. I see you got the side guards too, nice.
 

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I have now installed the Land Rover rear access ladder and can give some details if anyone is interested.
 

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OK ...

This is pretty easy if you are handy with tools. Otherwise, you might consider taking it to the dealer.

Remove the upper liftgate inner trim cover by pulling it slowly straight back from the glass. I found it easiest to pull up a corner then work my way around. The lower portion of the trim piece is held in place by the usual captive snap in fasteners. There is a slightly less usual kind, more rectangular, holding the upper portion of the trim. These seem to grab harder, so I found it easier to remove the lower portion first. Some of the white circular usual snap in fasteners will fall off or not come out. Pull these out of the liftgate somehow so you can put them back on the trim piece and replace it later.

Remove the four visible Torx screws holding the rear liftgate handle in place from the lower edge of the upper liftgate. Remove three additional nuts now visible since you took the above trim piece off. Detach the light cable and rear camera cable (if you have one) at the obvious connectors. Now remove the entire liftgate handle. The instructions indicate the mounting points for ladder hardware clearly. My 2011 had less than 9mm holes already drilled from the factory. The provided rivnuts (rivet-in nuts) require a 9mm hole so these holes had to be enlarged.

Now I don't have access to a 9mm drill bit, but what I ended up doing worked great. I used a step drill bit to enlarge the hole to 9mm. The step bit was an English bit, but this is what I did. 9mm is between the commonly found 5/16" and 3/8" diameters. 11/32" would have been really close, but I did not have a step bit that size. I wanted to use a step bit for a clean hole, more important because of how the rivnut works. I drilled through 5/16" and towards the 3/8" step of the bit, but not all the way to 3/8". I carefully took more and more metal off past 5/16" until the rivnut fit through the hole snugly.

The rivnut was then expanded (works like a rivet). The key was to expand it with the provided screw without having to purchase a specialized tool. I found a slightly oversize regular nut that would slide over the provided bolt without engaging the threads. I used a small edge file and created small grooves in one face of the nut to make sure that it grabs the flange of the rivnut. An appropriately sized star washer would work but I did not have one handy.

So, put the rivnut in the hole. Slide the modified nut rough face towards the rivnut over the provided bolt. Put bolt-modded nut through the rivnut and finger tighten. Next use a spanner to hold the modded nut in place and use another spanner or socket wrench to tighten the provided bolt. This expands the rivnut in place. Keep turning until you notice the increase in tension. Loosen and remove the bolt and modded nut. Do the same with the other hole. This is probably the hardest part. Not bad really.

A foam pad has to be attached to the lower attachment plate of the ladder, per the instructions. No problem here. The upper plate has a bent over portion that grabs the upper edge of the upper liftgate. LR provides a large piece of double sided foam tape to apply between the plate and the liftgate. This part is a little hard because when you have the tape in place per the instructions, it is difficult to get the edge of the plate over the door because the tape grabs it before you can get it in position. I probably would trim the tape if I had to do it again so there is little going under the hooked area of the plate. I would also trim it on the other side because the plate is flat whereas the body piece starts curving down. This results in a portion of the adhesive on the tape about 1/2" thick exposed, not doing anything but collecting dirt and dust.

Postion the ladder correctly and bolt it down to the rivnuts. You can now re-attach everything you dis-assembled earlier.

I'll try to get some finished pics up ...
 

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Hey, thought I add some photos to dipan's helpful directions for the rear ladder. Don't think anyone should have to pay an install fee for this. Easy DIY project that doesn’t take too long.

Remove the white tabs from the top gate that get stuck there. I destroyed one with pliers.

I used an 11/32” drill bit and worked my way around the hole until the rivet fit into the hole. Pretty well marked by the directions where to drill.

Putting in the rivet isn’t that bad. I had a nut that was slightly bigger than the provided bolt and just held it with a wrench. The rivet would spin around a little bit at first, but it stopped once I kept tightening the bolt. Don’t over tighten the rivet once it's secure.

Sorry I didn’t take a picture of it, but I cut the double sided foam tape for the top of the ladder pretty much in half. That way you can easily hook the ladder on to the top of the rear door and then ease it down without the tape making it difficult. There’s a picture of the foam that you add to the bottom part of the ladder.

Also a couple plastic screws to be removed from the door handle before putting it back on.
 

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Drilling holes in sheet metal - how did you "seal" it for corrosion protection?

Hi all,

I noticed some of the accessories that I would like to get require some drilling into the sheet metal (e.g., rear ladder, tail lamp guards, etc).

Question to you who have done these installations: what are you doing to protect the sheet metal, post-drilling, from future corrosion? Just curious because I do plan on living near salt water in the not-too-distant future.
 

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Hi all,

I noticed some of the accessories that I would like to get require some drilling into the sheet metal (e.g., rear ladder, tail lamp guards, etc).

Question to you who have done these installations: what are you doing to protect the sheet metal, post-drilling, from future corrosion? Just curious because I do plan on living near salt water in the not-too-distant future.
Hi,

The rear ladder (at least the OEN one and Voyager) does not require drilling. You rivnut the ladder in existing holes.

The rear lamp guards do require drilling a 10mm hole, but it's under the lamp and should not be exposed to the elements. Have others done anything additional to seal the hole?

-David
 

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Which method for rivets?

Step drill bit or rivet gun for the rear lamp guards? Just looking for consensus based on who of you used either mechanism.
 

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