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ktm525

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weight up high and to outside (on pads)

bush pin on bottom

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I replaced all rotors and pads with Brembos on my 13 and yes, they still have the two types of pins. Removed and cleaned, relubed them. Make sure you remove the air bubbles when you insert the rubber covers for the pins.
I will occasionally have some noise, which I blame the pads. Next time I'll be going with akebonos.

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I will occasionally have some noise, which I blame the pads. Next time I'll be going with akebonos.
What kind of noise do you have occasionally? I am using the OEM Ferodos with zero noise (but they are a little dusty).

Akebonos, and ceramics of any type, are prone to squeal when cold... and often take a very long time to bed in. If all you care about is extremely low dust, great, ceramics are the way to go. I have Akebonos on a couple other cars and can't wait for them to wear out so I can replace the blasted things.

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What kind of noise do you have occasionally? I am using the OEM Ferodos with zero noise (but they are a little dusty).

Akebonos, and ceramics of any type, are prone to squeal when cold... and often take a very long time to bed in. If all you care about is extremely low dust, great, ceramics are the way to go. I have Akebonos on a couple other cars and can't wait for them to wear out so I can replace the blasted things.

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Usually a little squeaking that goes away after a couple minutes driving and using the brakes. Not very often thought, usually cold or after rain.
 

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To add some feedback experience to this post. Despite of my pads and rotors having plenty of life left last year, I replaced them due to uneven wear and vibration when applying the brakes.
10k miles later these brembos are suffering from the same issue. It is not noticeable upon harder application of brakes. Very noticeable when slowly coming to a stop or when brakes are still cold. I absolutely hate the fact I have this issue.

Not sure if I want to change brands next time or if I want to replace the front calipers altogether.
 

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Not sure if I want to change brands next time or if I want to replace the front calipers altogether.
It is extremely unlikely the calipers are the cause of the problem, assuming the guide pins are lubricated properly. From your previous posts it sounds like you lubed the pins so that isn't likely either.

Are you 100% certain the problem is with the front brakes (i.e., the steering wheel shakes, or you can feel the vibration in the steering wheel)?
 

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To add some feedback experience to this post. Despite of my pads and rotors having plenty of life left last year, I replaced them due to uneven wear and vibration when applying the brakes.
10k miles later these brembos are suffering from the same issue. It is not noticeable upon harder application of brakes. Very noticeable when slowly coming to a stop or when brakes are still cold. I absolutely hate the fact I have this issue.

Not sure if I want to change brands next time or if I want to replace the front calipers altogether.

You need to check the lateral runout of the rotors while they are installed on the vehicle. You need a measurement gauge that installs to the caliper carrier. If you are beyond a couple .001s then you have a problem with:

1) hub mounting surface area not 100% flat (corrosion?)
2) wonky hub
3) rotor runout
4) combo of #1 and #3

Also Double check pins and relube with ceramic and/or silicone lube.

I have gone through the same. Good experiences with Zimmermann rotors (made in Germany vs China) although once I machined my lightly used Raybestos Professionals they have been behaving well. I am finding with modern rotors that many seem to "relax" after some use (good hot heat cycles) and go out of runout spec. Once machined they then don't fall out of spec again. Some shops have a tool that will machine your rotors while installed on the vehicle. This will ensure 100% the combo runout spec of hub/rotor.
 

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