Anyone running BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO - 265/65/18 ?

[richpike]

Hey, maybe you can tell me why most of the Grabbers do have the sever snow symbol, but some, including those for our trucks, don't?

It either has to do with the load rating or the speed rating that the LR3 requires - I forget which one.

-Rich

 

[Lyon]

It either has to do with the load rating or the speed rating that the LR3 requires - I forget which one.

-Rich

Ahh, so they have to make the tires out of a harder rubber which doesn't perform as well in the cold.

Hmmm, well I might just go see about those.

 

[richpike]

Ahh, so they have to make the tires out of a harder rubber which doesn't perform as well in the cold.

Hmmm, well I might just go see about those.

Yep. We've had the AT2s on our LR3 for about 8k miles now. In general, I'm very pleased with them - good wear, good noise, good in the mud, good in the snow, good on the road, OK on ice. Notice they aren't great at anything, but they are good at everything. And for the price, they are pretty hard to beat. They won't be as good as a dedicated winter tire, but we've been very pleased with them as a year round tire.

The only bad thing I've heard about them is that they can be difficult to balance, but I haven't seen any problems with that.

BTW - I'm also in Colorado and spend quite a bit of time in the mountains/snow. They can't change the laws of physics, but I'm very pleased with them.

-Rich

 

[Lyon]

Yep. We've had the AT2s on our LR3 for about 8k miles now. In general, I'm very pleased with them - good wear, good noise, good in the mud, good in the snow, good on the road, OK on ice. Notice they aren't great at anything, but they are good at everything. And for the price, they are pretty hard to beat. They won't be as good as a dedicated winter tire, but we've been very pleased with them as a year round tire.

The only bad thing I've heard about them is that they can be difficult to balance, but I haven't seen any problems with that.

BTW - I'm also in Colorado and spend quite a bit of time in the mountains/snow. They can't change the laws of physics, but I'm very pleased with them.

-Rich

Hmmm... ok, well then I guess that I'm going to have to find a set of 18" wheels! Bummer about the 19s being so hard to fit with better tires because I really like the way that they look.

 

[JThiessen]

Ahh, so they have to make the tires out of a harder rubber which doesn't perform as well in the cold.

Hmmm, well I might just go see about those.

Higher load rating is not it. Every load range D and E that I have ever purchased has been all season traction rated.

 

[richpike]

Higher load rating is not it. Every load range D and E that I have ever purchased has been all season traction rated.

There is a big difference between all season traction rated and carrying the severe snow/ice symbol. There are many all season rated tires that are terrible in the snow/ice. The severe snow/ice rating basically says that a tire is rated as a "winter" tire - here is a quick blurb from canadiandriver:

But first, the basics. Winter tires are those specifically designed to provide increased traction on snow and ice and in cold weather. They are built to a standard endorsed by the Rubber Association of Canada (RAC), and are so identified by a snowflake-on-mountain "severe service" symbol found on the sidewall of the tire.

The rubber compounds used in 'all-season' tires begin to lose elasticity at temperatures below seven degrees Celsius, according to a document issued by the RAC. The compounds used in winter tires are designed to maintain their flexibility at lower temperatures, a characteristic essential to good traction. The RAC also notes that while tires must provide a minimum of 10 percent better traction in severe snow conditions to earn the title, most provide between a 30 and 50 percent improvement over standard all-season tires.

I'm not sure why the Grabbers for the LR3 do not carry the severe snow emblem, but I'm betting it has to do with either load rating or speed rating.

-Rich

 

[Lyon]

Well I think that I might go with the BFGoodrich tires. The problem that I'm running into now is finding 18" wheels that will fit. I'm not only looking for OEM, I can't find anything that has the right size and the right offset. All of the wheels that I can find have such a small offset that they'll end up sticking out too far!

 

[tommithy]

Lyon, I'm confused. If you are looking at BFG's then you already have 18" rims right? I ask because they don't make them in 19" rim sizes.

Nathan has a nice list of what is available in 19's here

 

[a990dna]

Well I think that I might go with the BFGoodrich tires. The problem that I'm running into now is finding 18" wheels that will fit. I'm not only looking for OEM, I can't find anything that has the right size and the right offset. All of the wheels that I can find have such a small offset that they'll end up sticking out too far!

Check out this company for OEM wheel availability....

http://www.wheelcollision.com/rover.htm

 

[Lyon]

Lyon, I'm confused. If you are looking at BFG's then you already have 18" rims right? I ask because they don't make them in 19" rim sizes.

Nathan has a nice list of what is available in 19's here

Sorry for the confusion. I have the 19" that came with the HSE but I want to get a separate set of wheels/tires for mudding/snow driving. The only real possibility for one set of tires to fit the bill for both of those things is the BFGoodrichs on 18s.

Is that more clear? ;-)