ugmw177
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Did the lr4 every have overheating history?
Blown Engine 2011 w/126K miles
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Jimmy Brooks
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My money is on rods. Seems like most of the damage remains in the combustion chambers and usually doesn’t leave the block from the the chain horror stories I’ve heard. Additionally I don’t think I’ve ever heard of the bottom of the block opening up from a timing issue. Doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen but I’d suspect rods since it’s from the bottom of block.
These engines are stout. If it was timing you’d crash the pistons through the valves and it would be a catastrophic loud and intense event.
Sounds like you had a bearing fail or somehow lost oil pressure. Hell, could have hit a rock in the road.
Sounds like you had a bearing fail or somehow lost oil pressure. Hell, could have hit a rock in the road.
jlach993
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This is all from me just really thinking about this, but i’m now thinking after my last two oil changes i pulled out less oil out of the engine than what i was used to seeing in my mityvac. I definitely wondered about the oil consumption and figured i’d keep an eye on it. Usually i do a change every 6 months and do maybe 1-3k miles of driving? However, this last oil change to failure date has been 7 months and like 6K miles… I did a lot of driving this period due to the summer and got lazy to change the oil in august. I’ve been using amsoil and i use genuine filters so figured i’d be fine. Do you guys think i was maybe burning up this oil quicker than i initially thought? I had no codes or smoke out the pipes. Don’t recall any soot on the tailpipes. Another thing when the engine went i noticed the oil that came out of it on the ground looked like maybe 3 quarts? It definitely was not 6-8 quarts of oil. Then again i never got an indicator that my oil was low on the menu screen? i’m wondering if i was just super low on oil and in combination with driving it hard….i was gunning it up and down i’m not going to lie. I had it maybe 5-6K at some points between some shifts here and there. I do this once in a blue moon. Usually i am gentle on the pedal. How much oil do you guys usually consume between changes?
I do my changes every 5k miles, and it usually comes out about a quart less coming out than going in. Replaced PCV diaphragms, but I don't think it made much difference, but only one oil change since.
115k I don’t burn or leak any. 6k intervals. I’m considerate but not easy on the truck, it gets full throttle and redline at least once a week. I don’t wheel as much as I’d like to but when I do it gets beat up.
powershift
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Probably a good guess. Land Rover designed these vehicles to make it easy to blow engines. In Utah its thirsty, in the Mohave it is not. My last change went 6k miles changed February, never added any oil and the level was full before I changed it yesterday and I've been in the Mohave the whole time. I go up a 7% grade all the time, the speed is slower though vs Utah.
In Utah, I check and top off weekly and often sometimes daily depending on the last result and the environment. For whatever reason it can drink a lot. I'd recommend a 60A charger to put on the battery to check it the oil. I'm thinking about mounting one next to the ABS unit.
I waited 1/2 hr yesterday to check the oil because the oil reading was "Not Available". Kept turning the ignition on to check many times, without the charger I'm guessing the battery would be low or dead while waiting for the DIC to cycle through the nonsense in order to access to the oil check menu and if the engine is started to recharge the battery, that resets the 10 minute timer.
At a gas station on the road its criminal trying to check the oil, so stressful. That is why I think Land Rover designed it this way, for engines to fail from low oil. There isn't a low oil indicator light. Nobody at Land Rover is that stupid to think the way we check oil is somehow advanced or beneficial in any way.
Jimmy Brooks
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I do 5k oil intervals. Pulled out about a liter less on this oil change, around 7.5 liters at 154k. My car leaks it, doesn’t burn it. My rear main and upper timing cover and valve covers leak. I’ve been lazy abt the upper timing cover because if I have to pull the valve covers then I might as well do the chains too which is something I’m not totally confident I can do myself.
As far as the way I drive it, I beat on it a little under the right conditions. Oil has to be above 170 before I really go over 3k rpms and I probably see redline 1-2 times a week.
This was a picture of my skid plate after 10k miles and and less frequent driving over the past year and a half. My alternator died at 147k last year and I think it was from my upper timing cover leak putting oil into it but could’ve been old age too.
As far as the way I drive it, I beat on it a little under the right conditions. Oil has to be above 170 before I really go over 3k rpms and I probably see redline 1-2 times a week.
This was a picture of my skid plate after 10k miles and and less frequent driving over the past year and a half. My alternator died at 147k last year and I think it was from my upper timing cover leak putting oil into it but could’ve been old age too.
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f1racer328
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I do 7500 mile OCIs but am probably going to switch to yearly (don't drive it as much anymore) - usually consumes about a quart or so. Depends, on what? I have no idea. Just varies slightly. I always top it off though when the level is lower than the max.
scapistron
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Being a driveway mechanic, twice a year for me. Once in the spring, again in the fall.
Storytime
As a young man I bought my first truck brand new off the lot. Gave it an oil change at 1,000 miles and some gorilla had put the oil filter on. After driving a screwdriver through it, I was finally able to get the thing off. I swore off ever letting someone else work on my vehicles. Fast forward several thousand miles and it is January in New England and I'm due for an oil change. One weekend it is in the 30s and raining, not going to happen. The next weekend we get a polar vortex and we're down in the single digits, not going to happen. Now I'm looking at the weather forecasts and scratching my head. I pulled into a Valvoline for an oil change that week.
So now I try to be much more proactive and start hoarding parts through the winter and as soon as I get some nice weather in March or April I get out there.
Storytime
As a young man I bought my first truck brand new off the lot. Gave it an oil change at 1,000 miles and some gorilla had put the oil filter on. After driving a screwdriver through it, I was finally able to get the thing off. I swore off ever letting someone else work on my vehicles. Fast forward several thousand miles and it is January in New England and I'm due for an oil change. One weekend it is in the 30s and raining, not going to happen. The next weekend we get a polar vortex and we're down in the single digits, not going to happen. Now I'm looking at the weather forecasts and scratching my head. I pulled into a Valvoline for an oil change that week.
So now I try to be much more proactive and start hoarding parts through the winter and as soon as I get some nice weather in March or April I get out there.
