LR4 Stainless Steel Brake Lines

[Land Rover Joe]

Regarding the very popular topic, and controversial subject of Pads and Rotors on the LR4 from this forum...several other threads worth looking at include

Brake Rotor Alternatives for the LR4

Reading through the replies to my earlier brake pad post regarding searching for alternatives to OEM compounds, it sounds like many LR4 owners are actually struggling with the limited life of the OEM LandRover rotors more so than the pads. A few alternatives for 2010 and 2011 LandRover OEM...

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LR4 Brakes and Rotors

Sorry, I've searched through the forums and I know this has been discussed, but after sifting through the old posts I'm still unclear. 2016 LR4, 30k miles. Need brakes. Local Independent shop wants $1450 all in for front OEM pads and rotors. Local Firestone is $1000 all in for"Ceramic Gold"...

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2013 LR4 Rotors and Breakpads

Looking into purchasing new Rotors and Break pads for my 2013 LR4 HSE 47k miles I've notice its been releasing a lot of break dust on the rims, any recommendations on which ones I should get?

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New Brakes at 25k..Suggestions for upgrades. 2016 Lr4

I'm at 2mm all the way around already. This surprised me a bit, i thought I would get to 40 or 50k with the stock setup. But this is where I am, so... I really don't like the stock brakes and how they perform. Looking for upgrade suggestions. I would like to buy them and have a 3rd party rover...

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Brake Pad Choices?

I'm getting close to needing Brake pads all around. Looking at the three most common choices Ferodo: OEM Semi Metallic Akebono: Ceramic Textar: Semi Metallic (lower cost version of Ferodo?) Akebono Pros: cheaper, no brake dust, much less wear on the rotor, quiet. Akebono Cons: Less...

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Best place to buy OEM brake pads 2015 LR4 Lux

I suggest Akebono ceramic pads. Used them on my D3 for years now on my D4. They reduce dust by 90%. How’s the stopping power compared to the original spec?

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[powershift]

I tried the fcperero pads that are said to be the same compound as Land Rover brand, but the mold for the material different so the surface area contact is different. The compound looked the same. But what I found was they squeaked even with a **** load of permatex stop squeak. When it got hot (115F+) and in stop n' go traffic (summer Vegas metro area), they were squeaking forward and reverse.

I put the Land Rover pads on, they squeaked then I put permatex on the backings and that shut them up permanently. 122F+ in the shade and its still fine. A squeak here and there but nothing consistant and I don't hear them. Its been about a year now, but I need to change the rear rotors. They were stuck on the hub.

 

[ttforcefed]

i have had nothing but good experience with akebono ceramics on all my rovers fwiw

 

[Land Rover Joe]

Mid-July Update:

First, We have installed the new rotors and pads. I purchased the EBC kit from Atlantic British:

EBC Performance Brake Rebuild Kit, Front And Rear, 3GD Series Sport Brake Rotors And Greenstuff Pads With Wear Sensors For Land Rover LR4​

Those work excellent and there is definitely a noticeable difference. There are a quite a few threads out there on this topic (See Post #21) but I can testify that they do make a measurable difference and feel much better. I haven't been off-roading with them yet, but in the street and with a lot of water / rain and whatnot, they are working great.

Second, we ran into an issue installing the rear stainless steel brake lines. There are two of the flexible lines and so we were going to put both on. However, there are those solid steel lines which have corroded and I ordered replacements from Land Rover Palm Beach. They did a great job packing everything up and I have now received the new lines - photos attached.

We will be doing the rest of the brake job, which includes the install of these brake lines and hoses, soon.

Finally, there is the unfinished business of fabricating some small steel brackets which will help keep the stainless steel hoses in the proper places (in their routing along the knuckle and in the wheel well).

Hope this helps and certainly welcome any good ides and insights!

 

[Land Rover Joe]

Tribe,

I wanted to follow up with this job. A bit of a bust for some parts.

So it turns out that the "long" steel brake lines I purchased to replace the ends going into the wheel wells...don't fit directly onto the factory lines after all. I think this is actually a refurb kit the manufacturer devised to replace the steel lines on the back end and address the exact issue I am having, which is corrosion on brake lines on the back end (in my case, at the fittings).

So to make those work, one would need to cut the factory lines, put a new flare and fitting on the mid-end section of the factory lines, and then fit the new lines to those in order to run to the wheel wells (something we were simply not prepared to do).

So after a lot of oil, careful turning, and maneuvering...we were able to get the original corroded factory fittings separated and simply replaced the short steel lines to the long factory line. In the first attachment, the short lines I am referring to which run to the wheel wells and the first braided stainless steel brake line (replacing the OEM plastic hose) are highlighted in red with the second and third attachments close ups. The long lines in the first attachment are the ones I thought we could just install onto the factory brake line (and are in the engineering drawings above).

So good news: we finished the job.
Bad news: we couldn't replace the rear-end lines as I thought.
But...better than bad news: I am keeping those lines in the event I do need to do that job after all (so perhaps another project for a "rainy day").

 

[Land Rover Joe]

And here is the rear end after doing all that work...you can easily see the braided (aftermarket as mentioned above) stainless steel hoses. Unlike the front end, these hoses fit properly (we had to fabricate a couple brackets for the front end hoses out of sheet metal in order to route them properly along the wheel knuckles and then just painted those gloss black to match all the paint work we did in the wheel wells, such as the brake calipers).

 

[Land Rover Joe]

Speaking of rebuilt brake calipers...here is a shot of what the front calipers looked like as we were reassembling everything.

We have had no issues and the rebuild brakes are working great.

So we have come a long way and I am (overall) really happy with how these look and feel (once the work is done...).

Hope this helps!