Tire Wear

[san6279]

Nope, I got it.....great idea.

 

[jhartz]

I have 17500 on my 05 SE: all four tires cupping and wearing inside; usually this is a bad camber setting at the factory. My Jag had it: they fixed it, put new tires on for free; my 04 Deville had something like it; they put new tires on and gave it a free alignment (at 8000 miles). LR dealer charged 152.00 and suggested I buy new tires! Some possibility that its the tires instead of a bad factory setting (these are pretty much set by computer robotics today). But if it seems to slow the wear, I think I will dump these tires for a set of Michelins.

 

[JSmith]

My dealer (Land Rover Wilow Grove, PA) has been skirting this issue with me. 20,000 miles and my $220 a piece tires are shot. Bad alignment is the culprit.

Here's the kicker: they know all about LR3's tendency to wear the inner tread on the rear tires. They said "that's just how it is". But funny that a tire rotation is not on the list of maintenance procedures when they see it every 7500 miles. I did the rotation myself every 7500 miles and I guess I need to do it more.

Now the truck rides like crap with a bad shimmy due to this terrible tire wear.

Anyone have any recommendations for tires besides the factory Goodyears?

 

[roverman]

lots of threads about this. more threads than options in fact. I was waiting for the silent armours, but goodyear is too inept to even tell me when they will be made (265 69 R18). Two months ago, it was July. Now it's end of year....maybe. Nitto terra grapplers seem to be a popular choice.

 

[Michael]

I was following an LR3 down the freeway today, and noticed that the rear camber was heavily negative. That's the second one I've seen that way in less than a week. It doesn't take an alignment machine to see camber out that far. I would recommend everyone look at the rear of their trucks, prior to the subsequent tire damage.

Michael

 

[phess]

I got 30k out of the Goodyears but they were shimming and riding rough, the inside had worn down to the belts the rest of the tire probably had 10k left. Replace with Michelan Cross Terrain 275-55-18. Great ride, very quiet, very happy with them. Had LR do a 4 wheel alignment - 200.00. Just have to keep an eye on the new ones but the camber being out is still evident but not nearly as bad. Every LR3 on the dealer lot had obvious camber misalignment.

 

[Amir]

Could it be that this camber setting is just intentional by design in our LR3s. A couple of years ago I was following an X5 and saw the rear tires angled inwards at the top ends, and I was surprised to see that but then thought maybe it is that way to give the vechicle more stability while cornering and in general driving. When I got my HSE, I noticed the same thing so I decided to check others parked at my dealer's lot and I noticed the exact same thing (angled rear wheels) on every truck there. I have seen the same on other LR3s driving on the streets and parked in general. Maybe thats the way it is supposed to be. Its even more pronounced when the suspension is in the access mode (which makes sense given the nature of the independent suspension setup). In access mode you can see this phenomena even on the front wheels (if you look at them dead on straight while standing in the front of the truck and a few feet away)

 

[jackmac]

"Could it be that this camber setting is just intentional by design in our LR3s."

Yes, it is intentional.

Rear Camber spec range is -1.8 to -0.3 degrees for both left and right rear. (LR3 HSE)

My BMW (with sport package) has even more aggressive rear camber, and some toe in too. Helps handling. Eats up tires.

 

[JSmith]

-1.8 to -.3 is the range!!?? That's quite a f'in range. No s**t you're gonna get lousy tire wear with a -1.8. Does'nt take rocket scientist to figure that one out. Interesting how that covers their ass.
I bet a setting of -.03 (which the negative camber will not be noticeable to the eye) will wear a hell of alot better than -1.8. This is ridiculous.

 

[kg7734]

Just had my LR3 in, 16,000 miles and all four tires were cupped on the inside. The dealer did all he could to resolve the problem, had the Goodyear tires prorated, and since they do not do wheel alignments, had it taken out. But a bill of almost $800.00 for a vehicle with 16k miles. There is a design fault with the suspension of this vehicle. The wheels never coming straight up to have the entire tire wear accross the entire surface.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee I turned in had over 70k and the Goodyears still looked great.
The thought of spending $800.00 every 16k miles has me seriously thinking of selling the LR3 while there are four good looking tires on it. One expects to pay for the extra features and functions on the sticker, but to spend this much in maintenance is totally out of line.
It would be interesting to see the testing logs that LR did on this vehicle, they must be short.