Another Defender hint?

[ryanjl]

Knowing what you know about both, which would you choose?

I feel like there is a reason most of us drive a LR4 instead of a Jeep Wrangler.

I feel like the same reasons will be why we'd drive a Land Rover over a Ford Bronco.

 

[Bryan Jones]

I feel like there is a reason most of us drive a LR4 instead of a Jeep Wrangler.

I feel like the same reasons will be why we'd drive a Land Rover over a Ford Bronco.

Fair enough

 

[iSurfvilano]

Fair enough

And that's why a mid 2000's g-wag on 35's is right up your alley ;-)

 

[Bryan Jones]

And that's why a mid 2000's g-wag on 35's is right up your alley ;-)

Triple locking diffs would be really nice, but 35's on an LR4 sounds better

 

[avslash]

Triple locking diffs would be really nice, but 35's on an LR4 sounds better

You can get triple locks on an LR4. Well, unless you want to get into semantics on how our T-cases lock.

 

[manoftaste]

Best I could tell being next to the defender on I70, I think it's a bit smaller than my lr4.

Really? Thats a bit disappointing, always hoped for LR3/4 to be slightly bigger (wider to be exact) than what it currently is.

 

[manoftaste]

I used to be a Land Cruiser guy. I've had an 83 FJ60, a '95 80 series, a 78 FJ40, and a 77 FJ40. I generally loved all of them.

But man, as much as I rag on Land Rover's designers, Toyota seriously needs to fire their whole design team. It's almost as if they are testing how much people believe in Toyota "reliability" by seeing how ugly they can make their cars and still have people buy them. The latest facelift on the 200 series makes it a bit more palpable, and I could maybe see myself having one someday given a certain set of circumstances.

But man. There's a reason they sell so few Land Crusers (and the even more hideous LX 570) and Land Rover sells so many more Range Rovers. If Toyota could make the Land Cruiser aesthetically pleasing, they'd absolutely rule the luxury off-road market.

Exact feelings here. Had a bit of a chat with one of the prod specialists at the LA auto show last year stating the same thoughts.

Trouble is Toyota hasn't been designing the LCs and its Lexus versions for the NA market anymore. They sell a lot more of these in the Asian and middle eastern countries, and apparently flash/bling is the name of the game there, for now at least until product value/awareness/under-stated designs begin to take precedence over glam, which seems like it eventually will. I was in Pakistan (a non oil-producing, poor state) a couple of months ago and Land Cruiser and the Lexus 570 are like the big dogs there for the non-political, general law abiding affluent upper middle and elite class/business community. Forget about a new LC or LX, even a used GX (badged as Prado) from the mid nineties sells for ridiculous amounts of money over there cuz these trucks have been proven to be so damn reliable there (rough, untouched, undeveloped terrains, harsh climatic conditions, etc.) A stock upper trim new Lexus 570 could list there for as high as $325k US, and you see plenty of them on the street, ridic

 

[Bryan Jones]

You can get triple locks on an LR4. Well, unless you want to get into semantics on how our T-cases lock.

That's crazy, because last I checked, not a single LR4 nor LR3, comes standard with a front locking diff. Even the rear locking diff isn't standard, crazy.

 

[avslash]

That's crazy, because last I checked, not a single LR4 nor LR3, comes standard with a front locking diff. Even the rear locking diff isn't standard, crazy.

I said can get. Not can get from factory. Haha.

 

[Houm_WA]

While a locking diff in front is nice, I've always questioned how valuable it really is....maybe because I don't have one!

For real though, usually you need help going UP hills, not down...and in those cases all the weight is in the back anyway. Between that and 4ETC, I just don't know how much traction it would add.

In the case of the G-Wagen though, it needs those lockers since it doesn't have traction control (I don't think, unless MB added it later) or the extraordinary articulation of a Land Rover.