ftillier's maintenance history

[ftillier]

Date	Mileage	Description	Cost	Vendor	Notes
2017-06-29	75769	PPI	150	PDX British	worn LCA bushings, brakes
2017-07-06	75799	Purchase	27652	East Side Imports	Did only the lower rear bushings with poly, left the front lower alone. Timing chains done by Green Oval.
2017-07-10		Roof rack keys	10.45	Thule
2017-07-10	75899	- Poly bushings install, new lower ball joints - Alignment - Diff Fluid Service - Diff Fluids - Transfer Case Fluid Service - Transfer Case Fluid - Brake Fluid Flush - Brake Fluid	1400 150 130 52 130 42 130 21	PDX British	Unclear if the correct fluid was used in rear locker... Also taking the **** with the poly bushing install.
2017-07-13	75947	4@Nokian WR G3	840	Tire Factory
2017-07-20		3rd row seatbelt strap	141.08	JLR
2017-07-20		Hitch lock	32.12	JLR
2017-08-10		Replacement passenger front door glass (smash & grab)	285	Portland Glass Service	Done poorly, door card damage found later.
2017-12-15	80120	Oil Change	165	PDX British
2018-03-08		Registration Renewal	171
2018-03-17		Headlight bulb	19.99	OReilly's
2018-06-05		New owner's manual (smash & grab from earlier)	69.99	Ebay
2018-06-05		Trailer Harness (Genuine)	167.34	Ebay
2018-07-30	85143	- Oil change - New Key	165 385	PDX British	Could not get key to program... Suggested changing antenna, etc. Declined and took to JLR later.
2018-07-30		MAP sensor Front wipers	144.21 37.19	JLR
2018-07-31		Air Filter Cabin Filter	54.95 18.35	Amazon	Mann filters
2018-11-08		Program 2nd Key	85	JLR	Worked without issue
2018-12-01		Headlight bulb	19.99	OReilly's
2019-09-13	89448	- 90K service - Oil Change - Brake Fluid Flush - Heated Mirror troubleshooting	149.85 165.16 200.16 108	Matrix Integrated
2019-11-21	~90300	Oil change and something else?	310.35	Matrix Integrated
2020-04-25		Registration Renewal	181
2020-10-20		Rear Wiper	14.74	NAPA
2021-03-27	96163	Oil Change	173.39	Matrix Integrated
2021-09-18		4@Lug Nuts	72.20	JLR	Stupid design
2022-01-21	99202	- Water pump - hoses - front and rear crossover pipes - Serpentine belt - Fan belt - Intake Manifold Gaskets - Dexcool - Front Wipers	1484.06	Columbia Rovers
2022-02-02		IID Tool	498	Lucky8
2022-02-10	99419	- Oil Change - Oil treatment (BG EPR/MOA) - Power steering Flush - Tranny Fluid Flush, new pan	160 45 113.87 1126.07	Columbia Rovers
2022-02-14		Compressor bracket, desiccant kit	104.50	Amazon
2022-03-02		Rear view mirror glass, driver & passenger	199	Lucky8	Fixed the lack of defrosting
2022-04-01		XLifter	591.60	XLifter
2022-04-13		5@Toyo AT3	1540	Discount Tire
2022-04-25		Registration Renewal	278		wow, big jump in cost...
2022-07-12		Brake fluid cleaner, caliper pin lube	18.86	Autozone
2022-07-12		Rear brake pads	123.03	JLR	quoted $1341.67 to replace just pads
2022-11-02		Tie rods, Coolant	84.37	FCPEuro
2022-11-05		Headlight Bulbs	51.49	FCPEuro	Phillips extra bright
2022-12-02		Alignment	150	Columbia Roving	Came back with wheel crooked
2022-12-14	104551	Alignment, take 2	0	Columbia Roving	Came back even worse
2023-01-06	105220	Oil change kit	132.44	FCPEuro
2023-01-20		Alignment, take 3	150	PDX British	came back wheel crooked
2023-02-21		Long Life Bulbs	24.37	FCPEuro
2023-03-01		Eisen Lug Nuts	39.99	Amazon	Single-piece!
2023-05-04		Redarc Trailer Brake Controller	184.79	Summit Racing
2023-07-10		Gas cap	53.99	FCPEuro	lanyard broke, cap got forgotten
2023-07-17	110020	Oil change kit, MAP sensor	171.20	FCPEuro	MAP sensor probably didn't need to be replaced, got a code though. Likely needs Throttle Body cleaning.
2023-08-19		Interstate H8 AGM Battery	169.99	Costco
2023-12-24	114185	Control arms	386.50	FCPEuro	Needed ball joints, and didn't like the poly bushings, so replaced the entire arms.
2024-01-11	114481	Timken Hubs	542.82	Lucky8	FCPEuro was mega expensive.
2024-01-20		valve block O-Ring kit	34.95	British Parts of Utah	Rebuilt front valve block
2024-01-27	115013	Oil Change Kit	64.61	FCPEuro	Store credit offset the price
2024-01-27		Hitachi Compressor	468.67	Amazon
2024-02-05		Alignment	355.42	Green Oval	After resetting height calibration, rear tie rods did not cooperate. Hopefully the last alignment for a while.
2024-02-14		Windshield	100	Collision Auto Glass	Rock chip that led to a crack
2024-07-19	120850	Engine Oil + Filter	0.00	FCPEuro	Store credit made this free (though I didn't account for return shipping, so it's ~$10 in reality)
TOTAL			$43491.10

 

[itsaguything]

Well, I for one wish you didn’t post this. I was living quite happily in denial.
Of course, you could have bought a new Kia for that total. But you’ll need at least double that for anything “real”.

 

[ttforcefed]

im not feeling as bad anymore! despite sounding like a broken record have your pcv valve and vacuum pump inspected/replaced.

 

[RoverTide]

Nice. I keep the same spreadsheet for mine, however, I deliberately chose not to include a cost column. I'm happier that way.

 

[ktm525]

So you put about 17k in it since 2017?

$17000/84 months = $202 US/ month for upkeep. Doesn't seem crazy bad.. I'm at $107 Cdn/month ($75ish US) but I do most my own work and am thrifty.

 

[ftillier]

Some of the big ticket items were preventative maintenance: diff/transfer case fluids, cooling system, power steering fluid flush, tranny fluid flush. Those were expensive, and end up making things look worse than they are, and should be relatively infrequent given how much we drive it. Other things were me just being proactive, like the compressor replacement, or replacing the entire LCAs rather than just the ball joints because I wanted to get away from the poly bushings. Hopefully with the preventative maintenance done the costs per mile and per month end up dropping going forward (barring me breaking something while offroading). I'm doing more of the work myself now too, which will also help. I'm not properly accounting for the store credits at FCPEuro from returning used fluids, either, but that hasn't been significant.

 

[ttforcefed]

So you put about 17k in it since 2017?

$17000/84 months = $202 US/ month for upkeep. Doesn't seem crazy bad.. I'm at $107 Cdn/month ($75ish US) but I do most my own work and am thrifty.

when people talk about cents per mile do they typically include or exclude the cost of the vehicle?

 

[djkaosone]

Oh god... why did you do this? My list is pretty extensive, including but not limited to everything you did plus 2 transmissions (1 new and 1 used), timing chain, exhaust manifold gaskets, 2x rear driveshafts, new cooling components twice, new air suspension overhaul, new front diff, countless oil changes, 4x batteries, and that's just normal stuff. I didn't include 2 sets 6x wheels and tires, brake conversion, roof rack, rtt, ladder, 270 awning, regular awning, ensuite shower, hidden winch, rear tire carrier, etc...

OMG... I may have easily doubled your expenses minus labor after warranty expired. No wonder why my wife is always mad at me for working on the truck.

 

[ktm525]

when people talk about cents per mile do they typically include or exclude the cost of the vehicle?

I think it is up to the user. When talking maintenance I just use whatever money I have plowed into it divided by the months of ownership or miles driven. With total cost of ownership I use that I paid for it minus an estimated current sale price to give a current running number. For instance I am currently using a $10k Cdn ($7.2k US) estimated sale price. That being said in my mind the LR4 was depreciated off a long time ago and owes my nothing. If something major popped up it would be the hard decision time. I ma hobby fix it over time.

 

[ftillier]

Oh god... why did you do this?

People often ask what things cost, I figured I'd add some data for folks to help make decisions. I don't think it's terrible, to be honest - it's been a great vehicle for our family of 6 and has found a renewed purpose as an adventure vehicle now that kids are growing up.

My list is pretty extensive, including but not limited to everything you did plus 2 transmissions (1 new and 1 used), timing chain, exhaust manifold gaskets, 2x rear driveshafts, new cooling components twice, new air suspension overhaul, new front diff, countless oil changes, 4x batteries, and that's just normal stuff. I didn't include 2 sets 6x wheels and tires, brake conversion, roof rack, rtt, ladder, 270 awning, regular awning, ensuite shower, hidden winch, rear tire carrier, etc...

I probably should have excluded "discretionary" items, such as the XLifter and trailer brake controller, those aren't really maintenance. When I do sliders, that also isn't maintenance and won't go on that list. Perhaps I'll add a separate table for discretionary items where I can also track the gear I've accumulated for off-roading. Lucky for me, ours came with timing chains done when we bought it, and had I paid closer attention to the paperwork, I believe the cooling system had also been done so I could have saved myself that expense. Likewise, I get codes about the MAP sensor still and probably need to clean the throttle body, rather than throwing new sensors at it repeatedly (again me not consulting my history). Looking at the history helps me in selecting repair shops too, some I will likely avoid, some others only go for certain work, etc. Hopefully others in the Portland area can find some benefit in the data too.