5.0 supercharged into an LR4?

[Tapps33]

Would you mind to share some details about this conversion from Denso to Bosch? Some said it's impossible due to different bus speeds, though I've seen pre-lift cars with Bosch infotainment and rest being pre-lift as well as would swear seen an ad of one or two of post-lifts (gear knob, ligths) and old Denso infotainment. It was said at other forums, that it was at the time when they were shifting from pre to post-lift builds. This all suggested it would be possible though so far no one confirmed to get it working.
Hopefully yours worked out!

Ok, this really needs its own thread, but I'll try and sum everything up quickly.

Short answer....sorta. Everything is in, and works, but yes, I'm having issues with the MS CAN and HS CAN talking to correctly.

Here's what I did; I replaced everything! I thought it was simply a couple of modules, and that couldn't have been further from the truth. EVERYTHING INFOTAINMENT RELATED IS DIFFERENT!!!! Not to mention, there are several items that aren't infotainment related that are also different.

I stripped the dash wiring harness out and installed a 2012 harness. Ideally I would have swapped a 2012 Body harness in, but all I had was a 2016 body harness and that was too different from the 2012 due to the newer "dial shifter", so I simply scavenged the bits I needed from it. What ensued was a VERY long period of time where I would trace wires from source to destination and I re-pinned half the connectors in the kick panel. I installed the rear quarter panel AMP, KVM and XM receiver bracket as well as associated boxes, 2012 XM receiver and 2016 Meridian AMP, then installed new AM/FM signal boosters. (This involved soldering a connector button to the driver's rear quarter panel glass.). Additionally, I removed all the "old" 2010 wiring and installed the new ICE/NAV link from the from to the rear. I then bought a 2013 gauge cluster, modified the EEPROM so the VIN, security code and mileage would match the existing cluster and installed it. I removed most of the old amp and speaker harness and ran the newer Bosch style one...which routed to the rear quarter panel amp vs under the passenger seat where it has been.

I replaced the Touch screen display, CD player (aka AHU) and the cd player trim panel (because the slot is above the eject button in the newer models).

To date, it sorta works. The radio works, the blue tooth phone interface works, the steering wheel controls work, and the buttons on the console work. However, the system information that should be displayed, such as all menu items, 4x4 info etc... aren't present. This is because I'm still running the 2010 BCM. If I use the SDD tool and auto VIN ID, the MS CAN bust system comes up perfectly, but non of the HS CAN Bus modules are there. If I manually enter my 2012's VIN, the HS CAN Bus modules are there, but the MS CAN bus aren't. It looks like my passenger door module has fried itself, so I get a security error when trying to update the BCM to 2012 software. To add insult to injury, my SDD dongle quit working and I've had to order another one before I can reprogram my used passenger door module to match the system...in order to get rid of the security issue...and hopefully reprogram the BCM. If that still won't work, I have a used 2013 BCM I plan on trying to integrate. In theory, once the BCM is talking the same way the Instrument cluster and rest of the infotainment system is, I should be good to go. Although I may have to flash a few other modules along the way before it works perfectly.

 

[lrovy]

Thank you. Yes, it deserves a separate thread and am pretty sure number of people will try to follow your steps I know at least one or two

 

[btboatboy]

I am planning a V8SC swap but into a 2014 LR4 V6SC, does anyone know of any differences in doing this swap vs the NA swap?

 

[Tapps33]

I am planning a V8SC swap but into a 2014 LR4 V6SC, does anyone know of any differences in doing this swap vs the NA swap?

Actually, it’s significantly easier than the NA to SC swap.

Let me caveat this with, i haven't done it myself, but the systems and software interface in the SDD tool is all the same

Swapping a V8SC into a V6SC’s place is ALMOST plug and play. The intercooler pumps and plumbing are all the same across both engines thanks to the identical blocks (externally of course). I believe, but have mot verified the throttle body geometry to be the same as well, so you can reuse your stock intake tubes. The engine mounts and transmission are all the same, so it'll bolt right up. And finally the coolant tubes are all the same (except for the rear crossover…but the rubber connection hoses all connect in the same locations, its just the crossover thats physically different)

What you’ll need to do:
-get a 2014+ SC engine, it’ll have the digital boost control vs the vacuum one on earlier models. You may be able to frankenstine a newer SC and engine harness onto an older block, but I wouldn’t.
-ensure you get the entire engine wiring harness with it. (Just the engine side, no need for the engine bay side)
-you’ll need to get a V8SC Bosch PCM and use the SDD tool to code it into the security chain for your LR4

Aside from that, you should be good to go. The only thing I’m not 100% is the exhaust manifold dimensions and geometry. Based off magnaflow’s website, the V6SC cars are different from the V8’s, probably due to slightly different exhaust manifold geometry. So, you’re probably going to have to have some older style V8 cats spliced into your vehicle…but if you do, I’d put some nice 200 cell ones in…that’ll sound awesome! The beauty is you’re going from SC to SC, all the support and auxiliary systems are already there. AND the Bosch PCM’s are easier to work with from a coding standpoint. Plus the digital boost controller allows you to make significantly more power than the old manual vacuum style.

Good luck with the swap! Should be a fun one!

One day I’ll be able to get back into mine…gotta settle after the move and get my garage built first…then my motor is coming back out and I’m gonna machine the CRAP out of it!