The Quest for A Durable Front Crossover Pipe

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The early 200 series Land Cruisers purportedly have water pump issues, too. But I gather Toyota got their **** together and the replacement part solves the issue.
Agreed...considering the profit for LR comes from service now instead of sales (because of the uninspired crap they now put out)- they’ll never improve the parts that fail- especially when it grenades the engine right after the CPO expires.
 

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Agreed...considering the profit for LR comes from service now instead of sales (because of the uninspired crap they now put out)- they’ll never improve the parts that fail- especially when it grenades the engine right after the CPO expires.

Sadly, and specially with the absence of any interesting products that would still force me to be onboard, the above observation is most likely going to be the main reason for me to part ways with LR after my LR4.
 

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First shop didn't want to touch it.

Need to get my hands on one to show second custom welding shop. Actually, a motorcycle exhaust fabricator.
 

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Maybe it’s time for a kickstarter to get committed money to chase this? The last I ran the numbers it’s going to climb up into the 10k+ range to design and cast this properly.
 

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How big a market would you estimate?
What does the replacement OEM part cost?
 

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I got a quote to 3D cad the part for $800 (for just the file). Then might have it cnc machined out of an aluminum block. I’m thinking I’ll check around to see if anyone else might be able to CAD it. Anyone on here have mad CAD skills? I’d be glad to set up a go fund me to crowdsource the design work- if we don’t get up to the cost of design, then you’d get your money back. Anyone who contributes, happy to share the CAD file.


I'm an industrial designer and would be happy to volunteer my CAD skills for the cause. I work in Solidworks daily and also have access to SLA 3d printer to test fit the new part. The only thing I would need is the pipe for reference. It would be ideal to have a good one and a bad one so I could see where the failures occur and also have the ability to cut it up to get more precise measurements.

Let me know if your interested and if anyone has parts we can use.

Would love to get this problem solved, and develop solutions to keep these trucks on the road for years to come!

Adam
 
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Maybe it’s time for a kickstarter to get committed money to chase this? The last I ran the numbers it’s going to climb up into the 10k+ range to design and cast this properly.
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I'm an industrial designer and would be happy to volunteer my CAD skills for the cause. I work in Solidworks daily and also have access to SLA 3d printer to test fit the new part. The only thing I would need is the pipe for reference. It would be ideal to have a good one and a bad one so I could see where the failures occur and also have the ability to cut it up to get more precise measurements.

Let me know if your interested and if anyone has parts we can use.

Would love to get this problem solved, and develop solutions to keep these trucks on the for years to come!

Adam
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That would be amazing. I’ll send you both a broken part and a new part. I don’t mind contributing a donor “good oem” part to the cause. Once we have a cad of it, I’ll get a couple manufacturing quotes and see if we can’t get a working prototype. Adam, dm me your address to ship to.

Avslash, you mind if I send the broken crossover to Adam first? I’ll see if I can’t get my independent to get another one for me to send your way.
 

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That would be amazing. I’ll send you both a broken part and a new part. I don’t mind contributing a donor “good oem” part to the cause. Once we have a cad of it, I’ll get a couple manufacturing quotes and see if we can’t get a working prototype. Adam, dm me your address to ship to.

Avslash, you mind if I send the broken crossover to Adam first? I’ll see if I can’t get my independent to get another one for me to send your way.


Please do. I've got a line on a broken one nearby.

Honestly, if you guys have the capability to have them manufactured in some kind of quantity, that is likely the way to go.

With the resources I have, anything I come up with is going to be a completely custom fabbed piece, which I would think would result in the highest possible per unit cost for everyone.
 

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Please do. I've got a line on a broken one nearby.

Honestly, if you guys have the capability to have them manufactured in some kind of quantity, that is likely the way to go.

With the resources I have, anything I come up with is going to be a completely custom fabbed piece, which I would think would result in the highest possible per unit cost for everyone.

Sounds good. I think the most economical way is going to be a CAD file with a CNC machined aluminum part. It will be very close, if not exactly oem specs and will provide us with the strength and durability we are looking for. With the manufacturing contact I have, they’ll be able to give us exact price and quantity discounts before manufacture.

The price to everyone who wants one will be exactly what production and shipping costs are.
 

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