Highest mileage LR4?

mm3846 · Mar 14, 2024

CRYA said:
This will be interesting to see what it gavels at. Same mileage as me, but the location probably plays a big factor is sale price. Not sure what the "overland" or off-road scene in PA is. Y'all run amok through Amish country or? Anyways, it will be fun to see sales price.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVYyawk3/2011-land-rover-lr4-hse

I would be surprised if it went for more than $12. Chain service doesn’t matter, look at the past results. The market has REALLY cooled down unless you have a 13 or 14-16 with under 50-60k you’re not getting anything for it.

Maybe if you have perfect service records and you have a Rover enthusiast who wants it, but a layman isn’t paying much for one of these.

ftillier · Mar 14, 2024

I wonder if a larger production volume Ford V8 (for those of us with V8s) could get swapped in, if it had similar sensors. Could you use simple circuitry to convert the newer sensors to mimic the output of the original so that the LR ECU could run the engine?

ttforcefed · Mar 14, 2024

High price already

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MRLR4 · Mar 14, 2024

mm3846 said:
I would be surprised if it went for more than $12. Chain service doesn’t matter, look at the past results. The market has REALLY cooled down unless you have a 13 or 14-16 with under 50-60k you’re not getting anything for it.

Maybe if you have perfect service records and you have a Rover enthusiast who wants it, but a layman isn’t paying much for one of these.

The only one with chains confirmed that went cheap was $10,000 after buyer premium, and was a 2010 with 127k on it. And the exterior was beat, and came with 1 key (a $500 problem for those who know). Still a steal, but it wasn't clear that the rear crossover was done since it was a dealer sale, and they flagged it as a "manifold pipe". A 2012 with chains/crossovers/fluids/new tires confirmed was $19k with 95k on the clock. This was three months ago. That vehicle previously sold for $13.6k a year earlier (when the market was hotter), with 20k less miles but with NO chains and NO crossovers done. When it resold, he was smart and had "Timing Chains Replaced" on the auction subtitle. Case closed... Chains and crossovers is a minimum $10000 car. They do not book that high because dealers generally have no idea of service history.

Now, if you go back and look at the "failed engine" thread, nearly all of those failures are indeed cooling related and many of the others, while not always drilling down to the timing chain, sound like timing chain issues. If you take care of those preventatively, and change the oil every 5000 miles with a quality synthetic oil meeting or exceeding original specs, and change the other various fluids, there's no particular reason to expect engine failure. 200k or 250k should be a cakewalk. Unlike certain VW or BMW engines, there aren't a lot of reports of random rod or main bearing failures. This is why I avoided a used Cayenne like the plague. The engines fail "just because" of oil starvation. The AJ133 does not do that.

ttforcefed · Mar 14, 2024

MRLR4 said:
The only one with chains confirmed that went cheap was $10,000 after buyer premium, and was a 2010 with 127k on it. And the exterior was beat, and came with 1 key (a $500 problem for those who know). Still a steal, but it wasn't clear that the rear crossover was done since it was a dealer sale, and they flagged it as a "manifold pipe". A 2012 with chains/crossovers/fluids/new tires confirmed was $19k with 95k on the clock. This was three months ago. That vehicle previously sold for $13.6k a year earlier (when the market was hotter), with 20k less miles but with NO chains and NO crossovers done. When it resold, he was smart and had "Timing Chains Replaced" on the auction subtitle. Case closed... Chains and crossovers is a minimum $10000 car. They do not book that high because dealers generally have no idea of service history.

Now, if you go back and look at the "failed engine" thread, nearly all of those failures are indeed cooling related and many of the others, while not always drilling down to the timing chain, sound like timing chain issues. If you take care of those preventatively, and change the oil every 5000 miles with a quality synthetic oil meeting or exceeding original specs, and change the other various fluids, there's no particular reason to expect engine failure. 200k or 250k should be a cakewalk. Unlike certain VW or BMW engines, there aren't a lot of reports of random rod or main bearing failures. This is why I avoided a used Cayenne like the plague. The engines fail "just because" of oil starvation. The AJ133 does not do that.

So timing chains when they start making noise and all coolant, pvc valve and vacuum pump every 75k miles?

MRLR4 · Mar 14, 2024

ttforcefed said:
High price already

No Reserve: 2016 Land Rover LR4 Landmark Edition

Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 2016 Land Rover LR4 Landmark Edition at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #140,331.

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Lack of knowledge. Same engine with two cylinders plugged off and a supercharger added. How is that possibly going to be a more reliable vehicle? All of the same maintenance needs and failure modes, with a few more glommed on top. On of top that, a ridiculous 0W-20 oil spec for a blower motor. That spec was for mileage, not longevity (also true of the AJ133, but less horrible in the application). It may work if you aren't ******* the gas pedal, I suppose.

In a purely rational world where model year did not matter, I would take a 2010-2013 for the same or more than a SCV6 any day, even with 40k more miles on it, as long as chains and coolant crossovers were done. No offense to anyone who has one, but the only thing better on those cars is the infotainment, which still is bad. Literally almost everything else was crappier, from a longevity perspective (which is what this thread is about, after all).

MRLR4 · Mar 14, 2024

ttforcefed said:
So timing chains when they start making noise and all coolant, pvc valve and vacuum pump every 75k miles?

Oil every 5k and chains preventatively by 100k. It's an interference motor, so you lose the timing chain or skip timing you trash the valves and lose the motor without warning. Personally, I would never rely on "noise". That's whistling past the graveyard. I might--might--rely on a visual/physical test. Agreed on the plastic crossover bits. Vacuum pump once with a new style one when/if it fails/leaks too bad. I'm not aware that it can **** an engine. As usual, buy from OEM Pierburg which will sell the same pump for half what JLR will charge.

ttforcefed · Mar 14, 2024

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MRLR4 said:
Oil every 5k and chains preventatively by 100k. It's an interference motor, so you lose the timing chain or skip timing you trash the valves and lose the motor without warning. Personally, I would never rely on "noise". That's whistling past the graveyard. I might--might--rely on a visual/physical test. Agreed on the plastic crossover bits. Vacuum pump once with a new style one when/if it fails/leaks too bad. I'm not aware that it can **** an engine. As usual, buy from OEM Pierburg which will sell the same pump for half what JLR will charge.

my vacuum pump let quartz oil into the intake fwiw

ttforcefed · Mar 14, 2024

So back to OP am i the highest at 162k miles?

itsaguything · Mar 14, 2024

Not following you @MRLR4 …. whats wrong with synthetic 20 weight oil on a fine tolerance engine at temperature and 0 weight at cold?

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