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That is a sweet engine. There is a guy on TY that put the ZZ632 in a pickup. Crazy power naturally aspirated. I'd like to see the jugs on it.
 

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They sold 6398 Discovery 5s in 2017 in the US market.

In 2022: 1488
In 2023: 2416

It's a market juggernaut lol. The tribe has spoken, the 5 was a dud.

The LR4 in it's last year of production 2016: Sold 10 772 units in the US. Well Done Land Rover.

My D5 HSE Td6 (I ordered it in December 2016) was my first Land Rover experience and, as a non-member of "the tribe" who prefers driving niche vehicles, I couldn't be happier with it. It's the quintessential fusion of comfortable high-speed motoring and apocalyptic off-road capability equaling that of the new Defender (including wading depth) except for approach and departure angles. Handling and maneuverability with 285/50-20 Nitto Terra Grapplers (no lift required and no clearance problems) are as good or better than any other vehicle I've owned. It's had no major problems (so far) and I get 26+ mpg at a steady 80 mph (the speed limit on I-15 in Utah). The tribe doesn't know what they're missing and can keep their body-rolling LR4s.
 
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My D5 HSE Td6 (I ordered it in December 2016) was my first Land Rover experience and, as a non-member of "the tribe" who prefers driving niche vehicles, I couldn't be happier with it. It's the quintessential fusion of comfortable high-speed motoring and apocalyptic off-road capability equaling that of the new Defender (including wading depth) except for approach and departure angles. Handling and maneuverability with 285/50-20 Nitto Terra Grapplers (no lift required and no clearance problems) are as good or better than any other vehicle I've owned. It's had no major problems (so far) and I get 26+ mpg at a steady 80 mph (the speed limit on I-15 in Utah). The tribe doesn't know what they're missing and can keep their body-rolling LR4s.

I drove one of the Td6's and actually liked it... My only concern with the diesel was cold weather -- will it start if I leave it parked all day and its -5 F out. Any experience with that ?
 

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The market is never wrong. People don't care for the D5 and that is why they never sold in meaningful numbers. From the "sitting in a bathtub" seating position to the cheap one piece liftgate LR flubbed it.
 

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I drove one of the Td6's and actually liked it... My only concern with the diesel was cold weather -- will it start if I leave it parked all day and its -5 F out. Any experience with that ?
Diesels are impervious to environmental heat. I became a diesel fanatic during a six-month tour as a UN Military Observer in Western Sahara. We could be sitting in our UN Nissan Patrol diesels with the outside air temp at 135° F with AC on max, and the idling engine temp never got above mid green. It's not a proper summer in Las Vegas unless July temps hit 115°, which is why I have two diesel vehicles. In extremely cold weather, Diesels involve more operational and maintenance considerations than gasoline engines since Diesel #2 can gel at temps below 10° F (-12° C). If I lived in such a climate, I'd favor gasoline engines unless I needed the low-speed torque of a diesel.
 

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The market is never wrong. People don't care for the D5 and that is why they never sold in meaningful numbers. From the "sitting in a bathtub" seating position to the cheap one piece liftgate LR flubbed it.
If the market was always right, we'd all be Jeep Sheep. Niche vehicle drivers don't give a rat's onager about the market.
 

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Diesels are impervious to environmental heat. I became a diesel fanatic during a six-month tour as a UN Military Observer in Western Sahara. We could be sitting in our UN Nissan Patrol diesels with the outside air temp at 135° F with AC on max, and the idling engine temp never got above mid green. It's not a proper summer in Las Vegas unless July temps hit 115°, which is why I have two diesel vehicles. In extremely cold weather, Diesels involve more operational and maintenance considerations than gasoline engines since Diesel #2 can gel at temps below 10° F (-12° C). If I lived in such a climate, I'd favor gasoline engines unless I needed the low-speed torque of a diesel.

Gotcha -- I saw Utah in your post so I had assumed you had spent one or more winters there...
 

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The D5 compromised 3rd row visibility/comfort due to the lower roof height/higher sill. Not a big deal for most, but important for my family of 6. Not to mention when I was buying in 2017, the our 2012 was within budget, but a D5 would not have been. Now, 20+ MPG is something I wouldn't mind! Do the rear seats fold flat?
 

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The D5 compromised 3rd row visibility/comfort due to the lower roof height/higher sill. Not a big deal for most, but important for my family of 6. Not to mention when I was buying in 2017, the our 2012 was within budget, but a D5 would not have been. Now, 20+ MPG is something I wouldn't mind! Do the rear seats fold flat?

I checked a 2018 or 2019 one out a few years back -- they fold flat or at least 99% of the way. Oddly, they fold ~ 95% flat the first time you push the button. Then you have to hit it a second time and it will go down just a little bit more to make them flush. Not sure if its a resistance sensor or if its some strategy to avoid wear on the leather.
 

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