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That's good to know.

So I have 77,000 miles on the OEM brake rotors... I know, that's a lot and they are probably out of spec. They have only recently started to have a slight vibration while braking at higher speeds and lower brake pressures.

I've replaced the rear brake pads twice, and the front pads once.

Needless to say I'm happy with them, and I was planning on putting the Brembos on since Brembo is stamped on the OE rotors... I guess I need to reevaluate that then.

So here's another vote for OEM rotors. I've always run Ferodo pads.
Almost 81k here on the original rotors. They shake bad but the pads still have some life left. Doing all four corners in the fall and will be using OEM stuff.
 

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What's with the part number change on rear brake pads between the 2012 and 2013 LR4 model years?

The 2012 model year is LR139969, which look like these: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/land-rover-brake-pad-set-ferodo-lr015519

The 2013 model year is LR134696, which look like these: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/rover-brake-pad-set-ferodo-lr134696

They 2013 ones are bit more expensive, but have significantly more brake pad material than the LR129969s. One of the edges is beveled on the 2013s, too. The 2012s have an adhesive backing for the outermost pads, whereas the 2013s do not.

Below picture: 2012 on top; 2013 on bottom.
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I accidentally ordered both from FCPEuro (I mistakenly thought the 2013 version was the front brake pads -- switching out my Hawk pads because for some reason I can't get them to stop squeelling after around 3,000 miles).

My caveman brain tells me more pad material means "better," and to run the 2013 pads on my 2012 LR4. But just curious if there is something I am missing. Guess I've been running aftermarket pads during the entire 8 years I've owned my LR4 so I have never encountered this before.
 

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What's with the part number change on rear brake pads between the 2012 and 2013 LR4 model years?

The 2012 model year is LR139969, which look like these: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/land-rover-brake-pad-set-ferodo-lr015519

The 2013 model year is LR134696, which look like these: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/rover-brake-pad-set-ferodo-lr134696

They 2013 ones are bit more expensive, but have significantly more brake pad material than the LR129969s. One of the edges is beveled on the 2013s, too. The 2012s have an adhesive backing for the outermost pads, whereas the 2013s do not.

Below picture: 2012 on top; 2013 on bottom.
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I accidentally ordered both from FCPEuro (I mistakenly thought the 2013 version was the front brake pads -- switching out my Hawk pads because for some reason I can't get them to stop squeelling after around 3,000 miles).

My caveman brain tells me more pad material means "better," and to run the 2013 pads on my 2012 LR4. But just curious if there is something I am missing. Guess I've been running aftermarket pads during the entire 8 years I've owned my LR4 so I have never encountered this before.
That's an interesting observation. I'm rotating my tires today so I'll post a photo of my calipers and see if we can find a difference.

I'm due for brakes too, and was curious if I've been ordering the correct brake pads, which it looks like I have.

I have been running the Ferodo pads, and they do squeal at certain brake pedal pressures. So I wouldn't expect them to be better than the Hawks. They also dust a ton... but I think they have a great feel and performance, so I'm sticking with them.
 

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When I had pad separation of the rear pads, I bought new pads from the dealer for my 2012 and they gave me pads that look more like the ones you posted for 2013+. They fit fine (and I think had a chamfer on both ends). Not sure which part number I got, will see if I can find out.
 

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I have been running the Ferodo pads, and they do squeal at certain brake pedal pressures. So I wouldn't expect them to be better than the Hawks. They also dust a ton... but I think they have a great feel and performance, so I'm sticking with them.

I am fairly certain the Ferodo pads are the same as the Land Rover pads.

I just swapped my front pads on Monday to get rid of a squeal that had developed with the Hawk pads. I ran Hawk pads with OEM rotors from October 2018 to April 2023 and around 45k miles with no issues, but for some reason the new Hawk pads I put in back in April don't get along with the rotors. I think maybe the 2018 Hawk pads I used had a plastic backing on the brake pads, and the new Hawk pads are just the painted metal backing. In July, I took the brake pads out and reinstalled them with some brake grease on the back. That worked for around 3,000 miles, but then the sound came back.

The Ferodo pads I just put in the front have an adhesive backing on the pad that sits on the outside (the non-piston side), as well as a weight on the back that sits on the top when installed. The inner pads have a plastic backing. My hope is that they will be quiet. So far, so good.

Like I said above, the 2012 pads for the rear have one with an adhesive backing and the other with a plastic backing. The 2013s have no adhesive backing and are all plastic-backed.
 

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Here's a pic of the back of the pads. Top two are the 2012s; bottom two are the 2013s. The tan part on the top 2012 is a film you remove once the pad is installed to reveal the adhesive backing before you install the caliper.

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The Atlantic British how-to video on the rear discs/pads talks about the adhesive pad thing here:
 
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There is a VIN split on the 2010s for the fronts too. I never fully determined the difference although I think the original had too much pad material and they dialed it back a mm or so.
 

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There is a VIN split on the 2010s for the fronts too. I never fully determined the difference although I think the original had too much pad material and they dialed it back a mm or so.

Interesting.

I should add that there is no difference in the pad thickness between the 2012 and the 2013 brake pads. It's just a difference in the surface area, and the 2013s have that one beveled edge.
 

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If you spray a few coats of CRC Stop Squeak on the backing plates that might quiet them down if you like the Hawk compound better. Its vibration that causes the noise.
 

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