Well crap!

[Fuji4]

I think mine (both pipes and water pump) were about 5-6 hrs labor + parts. I did mine pre-emptively at 72,000 miles when I bought the truck since it's such a common point of failure and have never regretted it.


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That. I think it’s maybe 3-400$ in parts (depends on what you choose to replace. May want to do a new water pump. Various gaskets,etc. ). Maybe 4-6 hours in labor at $65 an hour. So total around $600 to around $800. Mine was done in conjunction with other stuff so the labor was not broken out.

 

[DaytonaRS7]

thinking about a preemptive change of our front and rear crossover pipes. Anyone have an idea what a decent indie shop would charge? Guessing dealer is stupid money.

Thanks

you can change both front and rear pipes in your driveway with mostly basic tools and 3 hours of your time.

the only special tool id recommend is vacuum coolant fill system. eliminates air pockets, proves out there are no leaks, and fills the system in about 30 seconds.

 

[ktm525]

That. I think it’s maybe 3-400$ in parts (depends on what you choose to replace. May want to do a new water pump. Various gaskets,etc. ). Maybe 4-6 hours in labor at $65 an hour. So total around $600 to around $800. Mine was done in conjunction with other stuff so the labor was not broken out.

$65/hour? Where did you find this guy? We should hire him.

 

[Fuji4]

My longtime LOs angeles mechanic.

 

[Troy A]

$65/hour? Where did you find this guy? We should hire him.

Yeah I was thinking "holy cow, where is THAT guy?" Mine is probably $90+ in SF and that's an independent. But they're great guys. If anybody needs an excellent shop in SF, go see Pete and Jack at 11th Street Auto. They're fantastic.

Edited. I think it’s 90+?

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[ktm525]

Independant shop rates in Canuckistan are about $140/hour ($100 US). Further motivation to turn the wrenches yourself.

 

[Parker Freeland]

I did a preemptive replacement of the crossovers at 80K and bought an UltraGauge that tells me the coolant temp as well as sound an alarm if the temp goes over 205 degrees F. Not sure how accurate it is but it's got to be better than the LR temp gauge. The coolant temp usually hits and stays around 195 degrees F. The UltraGauge is only $80. To me, that is pretty inexpensive for the additional protection.

 

[equalizer]

This one?
https://www.amazon.com/UltraGauge-Automotive-Scanner-Mileage-Calculator/dp/B07JZJ1LLD
That would use the OEM coolant temp itself.
Isn't part of the issue that such sensor isn't picking up the change in temp fast enough/is misplaced?

I did a preemptive replacement of the crossovers at 80K and bought an UltraGauge that tells me the coolant temp as well as sound an alarm if the temp goes over 205 degrees F. Not sure how accurate it is but it's got to be better than the LR temp gauge. The coolant temp usually hits and stays around 195 degrees F. The UltraGauge is only $80. To me, that is pretty inexpensive for the additional protection.

 

[Parker Freeland]

Now you have me thinking about that. I think there are two temp gauges withing the device so I will look at the manual tonight.

 

[Troy A]

Now you have me thinking about that. I think there are two temp gauges withing the device so I will look at the manual tonight.

At the very least, even if it's pulling data from the source sensor, as long as the sensor hasn't failed (I don't know that that is a common failure mode), having an audible alarm as you exceed a threshold could save you 30 sec-1 min that you need to pull over and shut the engine down. I still think it's valuable as long as the sensor is functioning.


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